The index page for the 1954 French flap section of this website is here.
Reference for this case: 7-Oct-54-La-Croix-Saint-Ouen.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.
At the end of the Sixties, Claude Poher, of the ufology group GEPA, who later was the head of the official group of ufology GEPAN, had listed in numerical data-processing form an observation on October 7, 1954, at 09:00 a.m. in La Croix Saint-Ouen in the Oise. His listing only contained sightings with an official source or having been the subject of official reporting.
In 1979, ufologists Gerard Barthel and Jacques Brucker, in their book "La Grande Peur Martienne", supposed to prove that the saucers of the 1954 French flap were all mistakes or hoaxes, told for the case to October 7, 1954, in Lacroix-Saint-Ouen in the Oise at 8:45 a.m, that their investigation - of which they say nothing - made them conclude that this was a "very short phenomenon"; about which they say nothing either. The may have mixed this observation with another one in the same city the next day at 11:30 p.m., the latter having been very short.
Later, two sources of the web listed it: Luc Chastan said the thing was "at less than 1000 meters" and moved in straight line; the German database "UFO Datenbank" only gives the date, the city, and the hour.
Then in 2014 the French official group of study of the "Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena" (UAP), the GEIPAN, published the short gendarmerie message about this observation.
It said that a man and a young lady both of the La Croix Saint-Ouen - their names were withdrawn from the publication - had seen a "machine" at the vertical of the bell-tower of the church La Croix Saint-Ouen, moving from the South-East towards the North-East, at an estimated altitude of 400 meters approximately.
The machine was of oval-shaped, of a very brilliant "aluminum" color.
The duration of observation had been given as one minute.
GEIPAN noted in their file for this observation that the data is meager, that it could have been for example a reflection of sun on a plane, a balloon, or a meteor.
[Ref. gen1:] GENDARMERIE NATIONALE:
INFORMATION Origin: Gendarmerie Oise On October 7, 1954, at 9 o'clock [a.m.] a machine was seen at the vertical of the Bell-tower of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move south-east/north-east, at an altitude of 400 meters approximately. The duration of observation was one minute. The machine was of oval form, very brilliant "aluminum" color. 2 people saw it: Miss [-] and Mr. [-] of la Croix St. Ouen. On October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m., a machine was seen at the vertical of the electric Center of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move east/west. The duration of the observation was of a few seconds. The machine was in the shape of a circle, luminous. 4 people saw it: MM [ - ], [ - ], [ - ], and [ ]. |
Note: this document was made public by the GEIPAN - see [gei1] below.
[Ref. cpr1:] CLAUDE POHER, UFO RESEARCH GROUP "GEPA":
In 1968-1969, before the official GEPAN ufology effort started, its future head Dr Claude Poher was a member of the unofficial GEPA ufology group, and gathered a computer coded listing of more than 700 UFO reports on which multiple factors statistical computation could be run. In the file were a number of 1954 French UFO reports, among those this one.
For readability, a decoded interpretation of the data is provided here under the original 80 character encoded string. Decoding was done according to the original indications, the code number and its generic meaning is given. Please note that the generic meaning of each code is a predefined category, not the real specific details of the case. For example, if the main witness' age was 33, the coding would result in a number "3" which corresponds to a category "Adult from 21 to 59 years."
Original code: | 0613550710195409001JA2100010340014ZZZZ120000100000000000000000000000000000000000 |
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Location: | Croix St Ouen (Oise) - France |
Case number: | 0613 |
Source code: | 55 |
Nature of the source: | Reports from official French sources: Police, Gendarmerie, Army, Pilots |
Day: | 07 |
Month: | 10 |
Year: | 1954 |
Hours: | 09 |
Minutes: | 00 |
Type of Time: | 1 = local time |
Number of witnesses: | 2 = 2 |
Main witness named: | 1 = name(s) indicated |
Main witness age: | 0 = no indication |
Main witness occupation: | 0 = no indication |
Official investigation: | 1 = an official investigation was made |
Weather: | 0 = no indication |
Duration: | 3 = from 10 to 59 seconds |
Minimal distance witness - phenomenon: | 4 = from 151 to 999 m |
Method of observation: | 0 = no indication |
Number of "objects" observed simultaneously: | 01 = 1 |
Shape of the "object" (terminology of witness(es)): | 4 = oval, egg, ovoid, "like a rugby ball" |
Dimensions of the phenomenon: | ZZZZ = no indication |
Color of the observed phenomenon: | 12 = metallic, silver, polished aluminum |
Luminosity of the phenomenon: | 0 = no indication |
Lights or projectors on the phenomenon: | 0 = no indication |
Moving speed of the phenomenon: | 0 = no indication |
Acceleration of the phenomenon: | 0 = no indication |
Trajectory of the phenomenon: | 1 = straight line or very wide curve |
Sounds perceived during observation: | 0 = no indication |
Maximum angular height of observation (horizon = 0°): | 0 = no indication |
Nature of the landing place: | 0 = no indication |
Number of contact points with ground: | 0 = no indication |
Traces of landing: | 0 = no indication |
Observation of "occupants" | 0 = no indication |
Height of the occupants observed: | 00 = no indication |
Garment of the occupants: | 00 = no indication |
Garment: | 0 = no indication |
General behavior of "occupants": | 0 = no indication |
Interaction of "occupants" with witness: | 0 = no indication |
Head, hair: | 0 = no indication |
Voice, breathing, chin: | 0 = no indication |
Skin: | 0 = no indication |
Eyes: | 0 = no indication |
Mouth: | 0 = no indication |
Various details: | 0 = no indication |
Thermal effects: | 0 = no indication |
Luminous effects: | 0 = no indication |
Magnetic effect (or electromagnetic): | 0 = no indication |
Odor perceived by witness: | 0 = no indication |
Physiological effects on the witness(es): | 0 = no indication |
Psychological effect on the witness(es): | 0 = no indication |
Effects on animals: | 0 = no indication |
Other effects reported: | 0 = no indication |
Nebulosity: | 0 = no indication |
Oscillations, emission of matter: | 0 = no indication |
Spin, formation flight: | 0 = no indication |
Immediate disappearance: | 0 = no indication |
Halo surrounding the phenomenon: | 0 = no indication |
Interaction witness / phenomenon (complement to the other rubrics): | 0 = no indication |
Drawing or photo: | 0 = no indication |
Structural details observed: | 0 = no indication |
[Ref. bbr1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:
The two authors note this case of October 7, 1954:
"Lacroix-Saint-Ouen - 60 - 08:45 a.m.: investigation. Very brief phenomenon."
[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:
Luc Chastan indicates that in the Oise in Lacroix St Ouen on October 7, 1954, at 09:00 hours, "Two witnesses observed during 1 minute at most and at less than 1000 meters, an ovoid object of metal color which moved in straight line."
Luc Chastan indicates that the source is "Les Universons par Poher Claude ** http://www.premiumwanadoo.com/universons/".
[Ref. gei1:] "GROUPE D'ETUDES ET D'INFORMATIONS SUR LES PHENOMENES AEROSPATIAUX NON IDENTIFIES":
LACROIX-SAINT-OUEN (60) 10/07/1954 | |
Observed on: | 10/07/1954 |
Region : | Picardie |
Department : | Oise |
Class: | C |
Summary: | Observations of the displacement of an oval-shaped machine of very shining aluminum color in the sky: not enough information. |
Description : |
On October 7, 1954, at 9, two people see at the vertical of the bell-tower of the church a machine of oval shape shining aluminum color. The machine moves SE-NW. The duration of observation is one minute. This observation is the subject of a brief information sheet by the national gendarmerie. This type of observation can have various origins (sun reflection on a plane, balloon, bolide...). The GEIPAN classifies this case C for lack of information. |
Report: | None. |
Details of the testimony | |
Witness | |
Date of the observation | 07-10-1954 |
Document number | |
Age | Adult (more than 18) |
Profession | Not-specified |
Sex | Male |
Reaction | Active curiosity |
Credibility | Normal credibility |
Conditions | |
Environement | Urban landscape |
Weather conditions | Not-specified |
Hour of the observation | Numbered: 8 - 10 o'clock |
Reference frame | Sky or clouds |
Distance between the phenomenon and he witness | Not-specified |
Start of the observation | Start of observation by witness |
End of the observation | End of observation by phenomenon |
Localization | |
Angle of the site | Numbered;Not-specified |
Direction of observation | South-East |
Heading | North-East |
Trajectory | Not-specified;Not-specified |
Nature of the observation | Craft |
Characteristic of the observation | Unique |
Global shape | Oval, rugby ball |
Color | Other (other colors) |
Apparent size | Not-specified |
Apparent speed | Not-specified |
Noise | Not-specified |
Effect on the environment | Not-specified |
Number | 1 |
[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":
Case Nr. | New case Nr. | Investigator | Date of observation | Zip | Place of observation | Country of observation | Hour of observation | Classification | Comments | Identification |
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19541007 | 07.10.1954 | Croix St. Ouen | France | 09.00 |
The data is insufficient, and the suggestions of the GEIPAN are relevant: balloon, sun reflection on a plane, meteor... are all possible.
(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)
La Croix Saint-Ouen, Lacroix Saint-Ouen, Oise, silver, shining, egg, ovoid, oval, craft, day, gendarmerie, duration
[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.
Version: | Created/Changed by: | Date: | Change Description: |
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0.1 | Patrick Gross | January 16, 2006 | First published. |
1.0 | Patrick Gross | May 1, 2009 | Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [lcn1]. |
1.1 | Patrick Gross | December 19, 2016 | Additions [gen1], [gei1], [ubk1]. Addition of the Summary. Explanations changed, were "Not looked for yet. Possible meteor." |