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Reference for this case: 8-Oct-54-La-Croix-Saint-Ouen.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.
A short message of the National Gendarmerie made was about two observations in 1954 in La Croix-Saint-Ouen, in the Oise. The second, the day after the first, took place on October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m.:
A "machine" had been seen during a few seconds at the vertical of the power station of La Croix-Saint-Ouen, moving from East to West. It is said that the craft was in the shape of a circle, luminous, and that it had been seen by four people, whose names were withdrawn from the gendarmerie document as it was made public in 2014.
A German UFO database of the web was til then the only source, with a doubled record giving only the city, the date and the hour, and no source.
[Ref. gne1:] GENDARMERIE NATIONALE:
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INFORMATION
Origin: Gendarmerie Oise
Source: Message
Value: C/3
Date: 10/11/1954
On October 7, 1954, at 9 o'clock [a.m.] a machine was seen at the vertical of the Bell-tower of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move south-east/north-east, at an altitude of 400 meters approximately. The duration of observation was one minute. The machine was of oval form, very brilliant "aluminum" color. 2 people saw it: Miss [-] and Mr. [-] of la Croix St. Ouen.
On October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m., a machine was seen at the vertical of the electric Center of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move east/west. The duration of the observation was of a few seconds. The machine was in the shape of a circle, luminous. 4 people saw it: MM [ - ], [ - ], [ - ], and [ ].
Note: this document was made public by the GEIPAN - see [gei1] below.
[Ref. gei1:] "GROUPE D'ETUDES ET D'INFORMATIONS SUR LES PHENOMENES AEROSPATIAUX NON IDENTIFIES":
| LACROIX-SAINT-OUEN (60) 10/08/1954 | |
| Observed on: | 10/08/1954 |
| Region: | Picardie |
| Department: | Oise |
| Class: | C |
| Summary: | Observation of a luminous machine in the shape of circle in the sky. The phenomenon moves E-W: not enough information. |
| Description: |
On October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m. four witnesses observe a luminous machine in the shape of circle in the sky. The phenomenon moves E-W. The observation lasts a few seconds. This observation is the subject of a brief information sheet by the national gendarmerie. This type of observation can have various origins (sun reflection on a plane, balloon, bolide...). The GEIPAN classifies this case C for lack of information. |
| Report: | None. |
| Details of the testimony | |
| Witness | |
| Date of the observation | 10/08/1954 |
| Document number | |
| Age | Adult (more than 18) |
| Profession | Not-specified |
| Sexe | Masculin |
| Reaction | Active curiosity |
| Credibility | Normal credibility |
| Conditions | |
| Environment | Country |
| Weather conditions | Not-specified |
| Hour of the observation | Dawn |
| Reference frame | Sky or clouds |
| Distance between phenomenon and witness | Not-specified |
| Start of the observation | Start of observation by witness |
| End of the observation | End of observation by phenomenon |
| Localization | |
| Angle of the site | Not-specified |
| Direction d'observation | Est |
| Heading | West |
| Trajectory | Not-specified |
| Nature of the observation | Craft |
| Characteristic of the observation | Unique |
| Global shape | Round, circular, ball |
| Color | Not-specified |
| Apparent size | Not-specified |
| Apparent speed | Not-specified |
| Noise | Not-specified |
| Effect on the environment | Not-specified |
| Number | 1 |
[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":
This database recorded the case 2 times instead of one:
| Case Nr. | New case Nr. | Investigator | Date of observation | Zip | Place of observation | Country of observation | Hour of observation | Classification | Comments | Identification |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19541008 | 08.10.1954 | Croix St. Ouen | France | 11.30 pm | ||||||
| 19541008 | 08.10.1954 | Lacroix st Ouen | France | 11.30 pm | NL |
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Insufficient information.
One big issue here is about the "circle". By definition a circle is not a disk, a luminous circle should mean:
and not:
The the work "circle" is sometimes used instead of "disc", and this may be the case here; we just do not know. Sad, because a meteor for example can look like a luminous "disc", but cannot look like a luminous "circle".
(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)
La Croix-Saint-Ouen, Lacroix Saint-Ouen, Oise, gendarmes, multiple, circle, duration, night, luminous, official
[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.
| Version: | Created/Changed by: | Date: | Change Description: |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | December 19, 2016 | First published. |
