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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

AUGUST 4, 1979, CANOGA PARK, CALIFORNIA, USA, A WOMAN AND HER GRANDSON:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

The newspaper The Chronicle, of Canoga Park, seems to have reported on August 16, 1979 that in this town of California, USA, on August 4, 1979, at 10:35 p.m., a 60-year old woman and her grandson saw an object approaching them from the west.

It then hovered silently nearby above an apartment building across the street at 100 feet from them, and it was described as a flying saucer with a transparent dome with two humanoid figures inside appearing to have oversized heads.

The object tilted to one side, then returned to the horizontal, flew behind a tree, stopped, tilted the other way. It finally flew away back toward the west. The weather was clear and warm. The two witnesses were frightened by the craft.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000413
Date of event: August 4, 1979
Earliest report of event: August 16, 1979
Delay of report: 12 days?
Witness reported via: Anonymous, to newspaper?
First alleged record by: Newspaper.
First certain record by: Ufology article.
First alleged record type: Newspaper.
First certain record type: Ufology article.
This file created on: December 25, 2007
This file last updated on: December 25, 2007
Country of event: USA
State/Department: California
Type of location: Urban area.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 2
Witnesses ages: 60 and kid.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Woman and grandson.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: Maybe.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: Not reported.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Human shape.
Entities head: Bigger than normal.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Were in UFO, departure.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.
Explanation certainty: Low.

Narratives:

[Ref. rh1:] RICHARD HALL:

Richard Hall notes in a listing that on August 4, 1979, in Canoga Park, California, two beings were visible through the dome of a large glowing disc.

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Canoga Park, California, on August 4, 1979, at 10:35 p.m., a 60-year old woman and her grandson watched an object approach their location from the west. It then hovered silently nearby above an apartment building, it was described as a domed saucer, the dome was transparent, and two humanoid figures could be seen inside. They appeared to have oversized heads, but were human in shape. The object then tilted to one side and flew behind some trees to the west.

Rosales indicates that the source is Walt Greenewald, IUR Vol. 4 #3.

[Ref. ni1:] NICAP WEBSITE:

The web site's 1979 sightings page lists that on August 4, 1979 in Canoga Park, California, a large, glowing disc with bubble-like dome on top, was seen, with two humanoid beings visible through transparent dome.

The source is indicated as section XII of "The UFO Evidence".

[Ref. ni2:] NICAP WEBSITE:

A web site's occupant listing indicates that on August 4, 1979, Canoga Park, California, at 10:35 p.m., two humanoid beings, with large heads, were seen inside the dome of a luminous disc.

The source is indicated as The UFO Evidence Vol. II.

[Ref. dj1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

Donald Johnson indicates that on August 4, 1979, at 10:35 p.m., a 60-year-old woman and her grandson watched a glowing object approach their location in Canoga Park, California from the west. The object then hovered silently above a nearby apartment building. They described it as a domed saucer, with a transparent dome, inside of which two humanoid figures could be seen. The beings appeared to have oversized heads, but were human in shape.

The object tilted to one side, leveled off, then tilted in the opposite direction and flew off behind some trees to the west.

Donald Johnson indicates as sources Walt Greenewald, International UFO Reporter, September 1979, page 11; Ann Druffel, MUFON UFO Journal, December 1981, p. 15; Richard H. Hall, The UFO Evidence, Volume II: A Thirty-Year Report, pp. 24 and 492.

There is a drawing without caption illustrating the case; which is of this appearance:

[Ref. rh2:] RICHARD HALL:

Richard Hall draws attention on a whole series of sighting reports from the same period describing the same small sort of two-seater saucer-shape craft. Among the cases indicated, that of August 4, 1979, in Canoga Park, California, at 10:35 p.m., when a woman and her grandson saw a disc-shaped craft with a clear dome on top approach from the west. Two humanoids beings with oversized heads were visible inside. The object stopped and hovered above an apartment building across the street, within a few hundred feet, it tilted to one side, then returned to horizontal, and flew behind a tree, stopped, tilted the other way. It finally flew away back toward the west. The weather was clear and warm. The two witnesses were frightened by the craft.

Richard Hall indicates the MUFON UFO Journal, December 1981, p. 15; the Canoga Park (Calif.) Chronicle, August 16, 1979, as source for the report.

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

A record indicates that on August 4, 1979, in Canoga Park, California, USA, at 10:35 p.m., two large heads were seen through the clear dome of a disc-shaped UFO that approached and hovered. The UFO titled, levelled, moved, tilted opposite direction, flew to the west.

The website indicates it was observed by six female witnesses, typical age 60, in a canyon for ten minutes, and that the site was visited by a reliable investigator with some experience; natural explanation requiring major alteration of several parameters.

Points to consider:

Given the description, the short distance, a confusion seems out of the question; however, only sparse information exists, there seems to be no investigation report and the possibility remains that the entire case only rests on an anonymous letter to a newspaper; which is not enough to exclude a hoax. I thus prefer to let a question mark on this one.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe December 25, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source not available. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe December 25, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No trace of investigation report. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe December 25, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Alleged witnesses are anonymous. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross December 25, 2007 Creation, [rh1], [ar1], [ni1], [ni2], [dj1], [rh2], [ud1].
1.0 Patrick Gross December 25, 2007 First published.

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