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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

OCTOBER 4, 1965, PUERTO BELTRAN, SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO, ARGENTINA, LUIS RAMIREZ, MARIA ABELA CABANA, ROSA CARVAJAL:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

It seems that the newspaper Cronica, of Buenos Aires, reported on October 5, 1965 that a report dated October 4, 1965, coming from the state of Santiago del Estero, indicated that three schoolchildren, Luis Ramirez, Maria Adela Cabana and Rosa Carbajal, pupils of the Argentinian National School 982 in Puerto Beltran, in the district of Loreto, were going to get water at a tank not very far from their school when they met a gigantic being which rolled on the ground and mysteriously disappeared in a cloud of dust.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000639
Date of event: October 4, 1965?
Earliest report of event: October 5, 1965
Delay of report: Day, days?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: National newspaper.
First certain record by: Ufology book Creighton.
First alleged record type: National newspaper.
First certain record type: Ufology book.
This file created on: May 17, 2008
This file last updated on: May 18, 2008
Country of event: Argentina
State/Department: Santiago del Estero
Type of location: Outside near water tank.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: None
Witnesses numbers: 3
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Children or teenagers.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Schoolchildren.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Not reported.
Entities height: Huge.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Huge.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Rolls on the ground and disappearsin dust cloud.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Possible confusion. Insufficient data.
Explanation certainty: Medium.

Narratives:

[Ref. gc1:] GORDON CREIGHTON:

The British ufologist indicates that in Santiago del Estero, North-West Argentina, according to a report dated October 4, 1965, from Santiago del Estero, a schoolboy, Luis Ramirez, and the schoolgirls Maria Adela Cabana and Rosa Carbajal, pupils of the Argentine National School No. 982 at Puerto Beltran, in the Loreto district, were going to get some water from a reservoir not far from their school when they encountered a gigantic being which rolled on the ground and then vanished mysteriously in a cloud of dust.

The author indicates as source La Cronica matutina, Buenos Aires, October 5, 1965.

[Ref. jr1:] JEAN-PAUL RONECKER:

The author indicates that in Puesto [sic] Beltran, district of Coreto [sic, Loreto], on October 4, 1965, a schoolboy and two schoolgirls of the Argentinian national School Number 982 of this city went to get water from the tank not far from their school and met "a huge being which rolled on the ground and which disappeared mysteriously in a cloud of dust."

The author comments that nothing more is known on this curious case and that the sources are La Cronica Matutina of Buenos Aires for October 5, 1965 and Charles Bowen in "En Quête des Humanoïdes."

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Aguas Blancas, Salta, Argentina, on October 1, 1965 at an unknown time, a schoolchild, Luis Ramirez, and two girls, Maria Abela Cabana and Rosa Carbajac [sic, Carbajal], were on their way to a local reservoir to get water when they came upon a gigantic being that rolled on the ground and then disappeared in a cloud of dust.

Albert Rosales indicates as source "The Humanoids Citing newspaper source".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that in early October 1965, in the morning, in Puerto Beltran, Argentina, there was a close encounter with a an unidentified craft and its occupants, an unidentified object at close range and its occupants were observed by three witnesses (Ramirez).

The sources are indicated as Webb, David, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Newspaper Clippings; Uriondo, Oscar A.

[Ref. ud2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that in October 1965 in Puerto Beltran, Argentina, there was a case with insufficient information: a close encounter with a an unidentified craft and its occupants by someone name Cabana.

The source is indicated as Pereira, Jader U., Les Extra-Terrestres, Phenomenes Spatiaux, Paris, 1974.

Points to consider:

The location "Aguas Blancas, Salta" given by Albert Rosales comes from a confusion with another case involving three schoolchildren too with the same newspaper source.

The data available to me is too sparse particularly about the description of the so-called huge being, it cannot be excluded that the children were frightened by some vehicle driving in the dust rather than by a huge alien rolling on the ground.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe May 17, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing the primary source Cronica, Buenos Aires newspaper, for October 5, 1965. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufologie Severe May 17, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Possibly investigated, possibly not, possibly only a newspaper story. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufologie Severe May 17, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross The witnesses are three child, their age is not specified. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible confusion. Insufficient data.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross May 17, 2008 Creation, [gc1], [ar1], [ud1].
1.0 Patrick Gross May 17, 2008 First published.
1.1 Patrick Gross May 18, 2008 Addition, [jr1].
1.2 Patrick Gross July 3, 2008 Addition, [ud2].

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