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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

AUGUST 1965, ILLAWARRA LAKE, NEW-SOUTH-WALES, AUSTRALIA, DEREK AND DORA:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

British ufologist Omar Fowler reportedly told in the Flying Saucer Review in 2006 that near Elizabeth, New South Wales, Australia, on August 1965, Dora and Derek, a couple, saw "luminous dart-like objects flying over the area" in the night, and receiving "communication from supposed alien entities" on a Ouija board, telling them to go at an isolated area near Lake Illawarra.

As they walked through the night, they felt that something was wrong, and allegedly saw a light aircraft flying backwards and forwards across the lake as though searching for something.

This "apparently scared off the aliens and they did not show up that night."

Later that same week, the couple "again had made contact" with the "visitors" and was told to go to the same general area.

The did this and, leaving the cover of the trees, they stepped into the clearing, paused for a moment, and peered into the darkness. Suddenly Dora grabbed Derek's arm and pointed to a nearby tree that stood out from the others on the edge of the woods and clear of the undergrowth.

Derek only saw a shadowy figure standing by the trunk, whereas Dora described the figure as tall and human-like, appearing to be dressed all in black in a type of one-piece suit. It was "tall and slim, but not thin."

The couple stood transfixed, peering through the darkness at the stationary shape, and after few minutes, they saw movement as the hands of the figure reached towards its middle as if it touched its belt, and then quite suddenly it disappeared.

Later as they examined the tree, and estimated that the figure must have been about 8 feet tall.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000720
Date of event: August 1965
Earliest report of event: 2006
Delay of report: 41 years
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: U-K. ufologist Omar Fowler.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Rosales.
First alleged record type: U-K. ufologist Omar Fowler.
First certain record type: Ufology catalogue.
This file created on: June 27, 2008
This file last updated on: June 27, 2008
Country of event: Australia
State/Department: New South Wales
Type of location: Outside near lake.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: None.
Witnesses numbers: 1 or 2
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Young adults or adults or aged.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Man and woman couple.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: 2.40 meters
Entities outfit type: Not reported or one piece suit with belt.
Entities outfit color: Not reported or black.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Stands there, puts hand at belt and disappears.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, checked entity height by comparing with tree, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Possible delusions and inventions of fantasy-prone personalities.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that near Elizabeth, New South Wales, Australia, on August 1965, at night, after seeing luminous dart-like objects flying over the area and receiving communication from supposed alien entities on a Quija board a couple, Dora and Derek, were told to go to an isolated area near Lake Illawarra. As they walked through the night, they felt that something was wrong. A light aircraft was flying backwards and forwards across the lake, as though searching for something. This apparently scared off the aliens and they did not show up that night. Later that same week, the couple again had made contact with the "visitors" and was told to go to the same general area. Soon they reached the rendezvous point and leaving the cover of the trees they stepped into the clearing. The couple paused for a moment and peered into the darkness. Suddenly Dora grabbed Derek's arm and pointed to a nearby tree. The tree stood out from the others, it was on the edge of the woods and clear of the undergrowth. Derek could just make out a shadowy figure standing by the trunk. Dora was able to see more, she described the figure as tall, and human-like. It appeared to be dressed all in black, in a type of one-piece suit. It was tall and slim, but not thin. The couple stood transfixed, peering through the darkness at the stationary shape. After a few minutes they saw movement as the hands of the tall dark figure reached towards its middle. It seemed to touch its belt, and then quite suddenly it disappeared. Later as they examined the tree, they came to the conclusion that the figure must have been about 8 ft tall.

Albert Rosales indicates as source Omar Fowler, FSR Vol. 38 #3.

Points to consider:

A Ouija board (below) is an accessory of clairvoyance. The person using it moves a pointer on letters, figures, and this, allegedly under a "parapsychological" influence, or in these case, it allegedly gives a "message from the extraterrestrial."

Ouija

It seems that we have a couple believing in alleged "paranormal powers" via the Ouija board, and believes that something that according to their meager description looks like some shooting stars are alien spaceship.

The plane flying backwards might astonish some people, but there are many types of planes with canard wings placed ahead and even the propeller at the back, obviously giving the impression of a plane flying backwards, and the mention that this plane would have "frightened the aliens" when they did not show up says much about the irrational reasoning of the couple.

We have, finally, two quasi contradictory testimonys abut the "figure" seen close to the tree, since Derek seemsto distinguish nothing better than what he thinks to be a silhouette whereas Dora sees much more, even seeing a belt on the figure. All that at an unspecified distance, in the night, among undergrowth and trees allowing such illusions, particularly if one is convinced in advance to go meet aliens. Is it really impossible that the couple was victim of their own illusions and beliefs? This is what must be demonstrated to me, and so far it is not done.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe June 25, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing primary source. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe June 25, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Origin and nature of story not known: anonymous letter, rumour, newspaper article, investigation...? Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe June 25, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No investigation report available. Help needed. Opened.
4 Ufology Severe June 25, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No information on anonymous witness profiles. Help needed. Opened.
5 Ufology Severe June 25, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross When reported not known. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible delusions and inventions of fantasy-prone personalities.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross June 27, 2008 Creation, [ar1].
1.0 Patrick Gross June 27, 2008 First published.

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