A regional newspaper for October 18, 1954 is said to have reported that in Villeneuve-sur-Lot, Mr. Molenaer, building painter, was fishing by day on the banks of the river Lot, when he saw various luminous phenomena at a hundred meters.
He then saw an apparatus shaped like a saucer land gently and without noise on the river Lot.
A small being came out and filled a bottle from there with water of the river. After a few seconds, the being went inside his apparatus which flew away at "a tremendous speed."
A duet of French skeptical ufologists said in the 70's that it was a hoax, without providing further information.
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[Ref. fr1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:
The two ufologists and authors indicate that in October 1954, in Villeneuve-sur-Lot, Mr. Moleaner, building painter, was fishing by day on the banks of the river Lot, when he saw various luminous phenomena at a hundred meters.
He then saw an apparatus shaped like a saucer land gently and without noise on the river Lot.
A small being came out and filled a bottle from there with water of the river. At the end of a few seconds the being went inside his apparatus which flew away at a tremendous speed.
The authors indicate that the source is an article in the newspaper La Dépêche for October 18, 1954.
[Ref. bb1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:
The authors indicate that in Villeneuve-on-Batch in 1954, the single goal of the extraterrestrial visitors was to draw a sample of water from the river with a bottle.
They indicate that the newspaper La Dépêche specified at the end of the story: "Was Mr. Moleaner, whose good faith cannot not be doubted, the victim of an hallucination?"
They declare that they can answer that it was neither am hallucination nor extraterrestrial visitors but only a good joke which put the witness in the highlights during a few days in the village.
[Ref. mf1:] MICHEL FIGUET:
In an update to his Francat catalog, Michel Figuet indicates:
| 10.1954 | Villeneuve sur Lot | Hoax by Mr. Moleaner, B.B. p. 82 |
[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:
The Belgian ufologist indicates in her chronology that in October 1954 in France in Villeneuve sur Lot, Mr. Moleaner was fishing on banks of the Lot and saw at a hundred meters various luminous phenomena, then a machine in the shape of a saucer which gently landed without noise on the Lot.
A small being came out and filled a bottle with water from the river, at the end of a few seconds it reinstated its apparatus which took off at a fantastic speed.
the author indicates that the source is M. Figuet et J.L. Ruchon, "Ovni, premier dossier complet...", Alain Lefeuvre, 1979, pages 99, 100.
[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:
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90. A metallic saucer shaped object was seen landing silently near a river. A small humanoid emerged from the object and filled a bottle with water from the river. He quickly leaves. HC addition # 2401 |
[Ref. jg1:] JULIEN GONZALEZ:
The author indicates that there was a close encounter of the third type in Villeneuve-sur-Lot, the Lot-et-Garonne, in early October 1954, by day at an unspecified hour.
Mr. Moleaner, a house painter, fished on the banks of the Lot, and saw a few hundred meters various luminous phenomena, and then a machine in the form of a "saucer" which landed gently and silently on the Lot.
A strange little being came out of it and filled a bottle of river water, and after a few seconds, he re-entered his craft which flew off at a fantastic speed.
Sources are indicated as La Dépêche du Midi for October 18, 1954; Michel Figuet and Jean¬Louis Ruchon in "OVNI: le premier dossier des rencontres rapprochées en France", pages 99-100; Jean Sider, "Le dossier 1954 et l'imposture rationaliste, page 175.
[Ref. wu1:] "WATERUFO.NET":
[Note: this entry of this excellent website is made from my own URECAT catalogue; source link is provided but not to my website, it goes to a "mirror" site where someone reproduced my entire website at some time. My real URECAT file is this page.]
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10-??-1954URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at ufologie@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here. OCTOBER 1954, VILLENEUVE-SUR-LOT, LOT-ET-GARONNE, FRANCE, MR. MOLENAER: BRIEF SUMMARY OF EVENT AND FOLLOW-UP: A regional newspaper for October 18, 1954 is said to have reported that in Villeneuve-sur-Lot, Mr. Molenaer, building painter, was fishing by day on the banks of the River Lot, when he saw various luminous phenomena at a hundred meters. He then saw an apparatus shaped like a saucer land gently and without noise on the River Lot. A small being came out and filled a bottle from there with water of the river. After a few seconds, the being went inside his apparatus which flew away at "a tremendous speed." A duet of French skeptical ufologists said in the 70's that it was a hoax, without providing further information. Reference for the above text is: Website: URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog: http://wiki.razing.net/ufologie.net/ce3/1954-10-france-villeneuvesurlot.htm UFOCAT PRN – 171836 Europe – France, Aquitaine Villeneuve-sur-Lot Latitude 44-24-26 N, Longitude 000-42-20 E (D-M-S) (populated place) River Lot Latitude 44-18-00 N, Longitude 000-20-00 E (stream) Reference: http://geonames.nga.mil/ggmaviewer/ |
The true name of this witness is probably not Moleaner but Molenaer. Moleaner is a non-existent name, Molenaer is a known name in this area - just as Molinier and Moulinier.
Barthel and Brucker state, like often without giving the least useful information or confirmation, that it was a hoax. It is quite likely, if only when the very meager description of the event is considered, or because of this use of a bottle. However, I do not have any trust in their assertion. On one hand, they reproduced the very probable misspell of the witness name, on the other hand, they are unable to give the least date for the alleged sighting, they quote only one line of an newspaper article without even caring to give its date and so on. This is very bad ufology, hardly better than the copying of summaries of the affair with no more research by other ufologists.
| Id: | Topic: | Severity: | Date noted: | Raised by: | Noted by: | Description: | Proposal: | Status: |
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| 1 | Data | Severe | July 12, 2007 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Missing the primary source, article in the newspaper La Dépêche, France, October 18, 1954. | Help needed. | Opened. |
Probable invention.
* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.
| Main Author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | July 12, 2007 | Creation, [fr1], [bb1], [mf1], [go1], [ar1]. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | July 12, 2007 | First published. |
| 1.1 | Patrick Gross | December 21, 2016 | Additions [jg1], [wu1]. |
