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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

1933, DISCOVERY WELL, WESTERN AUSTRALIA, AUSTRALIA, A WOMAN:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Australian mystery monger Rex Gilroy wrote in Nexus magazine in 1995 that an aboriginal woman at the isolated locality of Discovery Well, Great Sandy Desert, in Western Australia, told her that one day on 1933, her tribe had been frightened off from Discovery Well when a large shiny egg-shaped object suddenly came down out of the sky in broad daylight and flew low over them.

Several beings, described as strange, grey-skinned and man-like, came out of this "egg", and the woman said she was knocked off by an object carried by one of the beings, carried to the glowing inside of the egg-shaped object, strapped to a shining table and apparently "experimented with".

The woman told stockmen of her experience, but perhaps not surprisingly they laughed at her.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000925
Date of event: 1933
Earliest report of event: 1995
Delay of report: 6 decades
Witness reported via: Told mystery hunter.
First alleged record by: Rex Gilroy, Nexus article.
First certain record by: Ufology book.
First alleged record type: Mystery hunter in sensationnalist magazine.
First certain record type: Ufology book.
This file created on: July 19, 2009
This file last updated on: July 19, 2009
Country of event: Australia
State/Department: Western Australia
Type of location: Isolated area, desert.
Lighting conditions: Day
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: Not reported.
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. child or young.
Witnesses types: Aboriginal woman.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: Several
Type of entities: Human
Entities height: Not reported or normal.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Grey.
Entities body: Not reported or normal.
Entities head: Not reported or normal.
Entities eyes: Not reported or normal.
Entities mouth: Not reported or normal.
Entities nose: Not reported or normal.
Entities feet: Not reported or normal.
Entities arms: Not reported or normal.
Entities fingers: Not reported or normal.
Entities fingers number: Not reported or normal.
Entities hair: Not reported or normal.
Entities voice: Not reported.
Entities actions: Came out of UFO, knocked witness off, took her in UFO, experienced on her.
Entities/witness interactions: Knocked off, taken in UFO, experienced with.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors, or confused memory of medical operation, or invention.
Explanation certainty: Medium.

Narratives:

[Ref. bc1:] BILL CHALKER:

Bill Chalker reports on "an aboriginal woman's abduction experience in 1933", saying that Australian mysteries researcher Rex Gilroy recorded an intriguing tale allegedly from 1933 that reportedly involved an aboriginal woman in a UFO abduction experience at the isolated locality of Discovery Well, on the northern edge of the Great Sandy Desert, in Western Australia.

Chalker says the story echoes the tribal legends and traditions of men and women being abducted by "sky gods" or "culture heros" in the dreamtime and the initiation experiences of aboriginal shamans.

He says that according to Rex Gilroy, the woman claimed her tribe had been frightened off from Discovery Well when a large shiny egg suddenly came down out of the sky in broad daylight and flew low over them.

Several beings, described as strange, grey-skinned and man-like, came out of this "egg", and the woman said she was "stunned" by an object carried by one of the beings, and carried aboard . Inside, it was glowing. She was strapped to a shining table and apparently "experimented with".

The woman told stockmen of her experience, but perhaps not surprisingly they laughed at her.

Bill Chalker indicates that the sources are Mysterious Australia by Rex Gilroy, Nexus, 1995, and Personal interview with Rex Gilroy, January, 1996.

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Discovery Well, Western Australia, in 1933, in daytime, an aboriginal woman claimed her tribe had been frightened off the area when a large egg shaped object landed in broad daylight. Several beings, described as strange gray skinned, and man-like came out. The woman said she was stunned and carried by one of the beings inside the object. Inside, the object was glowing. She was then strapped to a shiny table and apparently "experimented with."

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is Rex Gilroy.

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author indicates that in 1933, by day, in Discovery Well, Great Sandy Desert, Western Australia, there was a close encounter of the fourth kind which is a supposed abduction case discovered by researcher Rex Gilroy who, during several years, collected "innumerable" stories from the past of his country, echoes of the indigenous tribal legends.

A woman told him that in full day, not far from Discovery Well, a "large shining egg" came from the sky and flew over her tribe, which caused a huge fright among all its members. Several strange beings of human appearance with a gray skin came out of this "egg", then rendered the woman unconscious using an object that one of them carried, and took her along on board their apparatus whose inside was interior bathed in a reddish glow.

The woman was then immobilized on a table by one of the "abductors" and "had an experience with him", according to "Chalker 2, op. cit. pp. 20, according to Rex Gilroy, Australian Mysteries, 1995, p. 29."

Jean Sider comments on that "had an experience with him" is a prude expression used by the aboriginal woman to indicate that she was obliged to sexual intercourse with one of the occupants of the UFO, and that his source states then that the first "post-arnoldien" known case of this type was that of Antonio Villa-Boas in 1957 in Brazil. The source also specifies that since 1986, aboriginals women whose tribes live in Central Desert told researcher John Kernott they have sexual intercourse with "spirits" but no baby was born from such unions, that some of them were often prone to stomach aches and vomiting, and that the entities who attacked them sexually was described as "men in black" whose eyes were difficult to see.

Jean Sider adds that these beings do not walk on the ground, for they move only in the airs, they can cross the walls and go so far as to punish certain members of their tribe, and that they are regarded as being "the spirits with the feet of feather", according to Bill Chalker, page 21.

Jean Sider comments that these last sentences "remind of the sexual relations of the demons with 'witches' during the alleged Sabbaths of the time of the Inquisition, orgy demonstrations live only in a virtual reality, but that the victims believed was real in body and not inmind."

Points to consider:

As often, many details could have shed light on the nature of the incident, but were not looked for or are not reported.

Did the UFO make noise or was it silent? Were the occupants definitely men or not? What did they wear? do aboriginal people refer to caucasion people as grey skinned? What exactly were the experiences? How old was the witness when it happened? Etc.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe July 19, 2009 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing primary source. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe July 19, 2009 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Important information is missing: UFO noisy or not? Witness age then? Precise description of occupants, their clothes, what they did exactly? Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial visitors, or confused memory of medical operation, or invention.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross July 19, 2009 Creation, [bc1], [ar1], [js1].
1.0 Patrick Gross July 19, 2009 First published.

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