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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

LATE FEBRUARY 1913, KILLARY HARBOUR, GALWAY COUNTY, IRELAND, MR. COLLINS:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Albert Rosales says in his catalogue that according to Nigel Watson, a British ufologist, in Killary Harbour, Ireland, on late February 1913, at an unknown time, one Mr. Collins was aboard his yacht when he saw a strange "aeroplane-like" object approaching from the sea.

It suddenly ditched into the water near the shore. Collins then approached the craft, which was now apparently at the shore.

He saw three occupants apparently working on the object. Two were tall, heavy set, blond haired and light complexioned.

Thinking they were or German origin, he asked in German if they needed any help. One of the men responded in French, claiming he could not understand, and then, in no uncertain terms, told the witness to leave the area. Collins quickly left and did not see the craft depart.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001113
Date of event: Late february 1913
Earliest report of event: 1980?
Delay of report: 7 decades?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Ufologist Nigel Watson.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Rosales.
First alleged record type: Ufologist.
First certain record type: Ufology catalogue.
This file created on: February 14, 2013
This file last updated on: February 14, 2013
Country of event: Ireland
State/Department: Galway county
Type of location: Seashore.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: Yes, "aeroplane".
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Young adult or adult.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Man on his yacht.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 3
Type of entities: Human
Entities height: 2 are tall.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: 2 are light complexioned.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: 2 are blonde haired.
Entities voice: 1 speaks French.
Entities actions: Are on or in or near UFO, saw witness, asked him to go away.
Entities/witness interactions: Asked witness to go away.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not frightened. Offered help.
Witness(es) interpretation: German men.
Explanation category: Possible French seaplane incident.
Explanation certainty: None.

Narratives:

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates that in Killary Harbor, Ireland, on late February 1913, at an unknown time, a Mr. Collins was aboard his yacht when he saw a strange "aero-plane" like object approaching from the sea. It suddenly ditched into the water near the shore. Collins then approached the craft, which was now apparently at the shore. He saw three occupants apparently working on the object. Two were tall, heavy set, blond haired and light complexioned. Thinking they were or German origin he asked if they needed any help in German. One of the men responded in French, claiming he could not understand, and then in no uncertain terms told the witness to leave the area. Collins quickly left and did not see the craft depart.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is Nigel Watson.

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author says that in February 1913, in Killary Harbor, Ireland, "one Mr. Collins" is aboard his yacht when he sees an object compared to a bizarre airplane come to his boat from off the shore, seeming to fall on the water not far from the shore. Collins is close to the craft which meanwhile moved on the beach and noticed three occupants appearing to be busy at some task on the craft. Both are tall, of imposing stature with blonde hair, Collins believes they are of Germanic origin and asks then in German if they need help. One of the strangers answered in French in an unfriendly manner that he does not understand what Collins says and he asks him to go away. Collins obeyed quickly, he does not see the departure of the vehicle.

Jean Sider says his source is "Rosales, from Nigel Watson".

Points to consider:

The [ar1] source was copied on many UFO websites without more information.

It may be that more original information is in "The 1912-1913 British Phantom Airship Scare Catalogue" by Nigel Watson, Granville Oldroyd, David Clarke, published by the Fund for UFO Research (FUFOR) in the 1980's.

In 1913, French had for example a three-seater reconnaissance seaplane Nieuport (below). The witness talks about a strange aeroplane-like object, a seaplane could certainly be called so in 1913, and he talks of three men, one of them at least speaking French. Is it possible that there was some French mission having difficulties and forced landing on the sea there in Ireland?

Aviation history (*) indicates that Nieuport seaplanes were ordered already in of 1912, by Italy, Russia, Sweden and Great Britain too. It is thus not excluded that such an incident could have occurred, while the incident has nothing really "UFOesque" in it.

(*) See for example www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/nieuportflotteurs.pdf

As for the rest, see the list of issues below.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe February 14, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross More original source not available. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe February 14, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Nature of report unknown: letter, newspaper, witness statement...? Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe February 14, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness case. Help needed. Opened.
4 Ufology Severe February 14, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No sign of investigation or checking. Help needed. Opened.
4 Ufology Severe February 14, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Witness interpretation after incident not known. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible French seaplane incident.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross February 14, 2013 Creation, [ar1], [js1].
1.0 Patrick Gross February 14, 2013 First published.

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