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ALSACAT is my comprehensive catalog of UFO sighting reports in Alsace, the region is the North-East of France, whether they are "explained" or "unexplained".

The ALSACAT catalog is made of case files with a case number, summary, quantitative information (date, location, number of witnesses...), classifications, all sources mentioning the case with their references, a discussion of the case in order to evaluate its causes, and a history of the changes made to the file. A general index and thematic sub-catalogs give access to these Alsatian case files.

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Case of Wolxheim, on July 18, 2008:

Case number:

ALSACAT-2008-07-18-WOLXHEIM-1

Summary:

On July 24, 2008, on the ufology Web board Les Mystères des OVNI, a newly registered member named "Roester" with first name "Flo", 41-year-old, from Molsheim, reported his observation of a "huge triangle" in Wolxheim, which intrigues him.

He says he has already told some people about what he saw on July 22, 2008, but wants to chronologically discuss all the other aspects of his observation.

He assures that he rarely drinks alcohol, and never takes other substances.

He had gone with his friend's son to the Marly crop circle site in June, 150 km from their home, because they really wanted to see one once in their life.

At the beginning of July, around the 5th or 6th, wanting to please his girlfriend, he goes to the hill 500 meters from his childhood home to spend nights under the stars, despite a certain cold - they were well covered.

The first night, despite "a few movements in the sky, too fast to imagine anything", he stared at three "triangle-shaped stars" for a long time, discussing everything and nothing with his girlfriend, when suddenly one of the stars begins to move, noiselessly crossing the other two stars. He wondered whether it was a satellite.

On July 14, to admire the fireworks, he, his friend and his friend's son went to the same place. There were other spectators, as the area is known as a good place to watch fireworks. While everyone was watching only the fireworks, their eyes fell on a very twinkling star, which they scanned with binoculars. He thought of a star, he still thinks it was one, but around it, there were movements of small stars and quite a few flashes.

On July 18, to end his birthday party with his girlfriend, they go back up the hill, his girlfriend driving. Arriving in the nearby village, he notices a white ball descending rapidly and ascending just as rapidly, making rapid movements from left to right. As villagers continued the celebrations of July 14, he was hardly surprised.

He offers to go to another nearby hill; they park between the vines, under a sparsely starry, even cloudy, sky. He is having a good time with his girlfriend, when she asks him if what she sees is a star. He looks at the thing, and sees a star oddly close and twinkling, fading from white to red but standing still - which he admits makes sense for a star. He stares at it for 10 seconds then suddenly, just behind this star, a flashing white light appears.

They go back to the houses, because they are starting to be a little scared, and then notice on the first hill - that of July 5 and 6 - the same phenomenon. They park, scrutinize the thing, ask themselves questions, when, to reassure themselves, they "jokely" flash the headlights, and "coincidentally" the star goes out.

It is difficult for him to give details on distances and other orientation in space, he hardly considers himself an expert in the matter.

Before writing the sequel, he is questioned by a member of the forum wanting clarification. He agrees that "so many phenomena in such a short time, we think that's too much!", but answers and reports what he saw.

He specifies it was at the village of his parents is Wolxheim in Alsace, that it is in a housing estate, bordered by hills covered with vines.

One of the hills is dominated by a statue in gold leaf representing "Christ", the place called "Le Horn", the central point of his observations (apart from the triangle). The statue lit up until midnight is about 300 meters from his parents' home. He specifies that the observations have always taken place in the early evening around 9:45 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. and end around midnight to 1:00 a.m., when he returns home.

He adds that two evenings before having observed the "triangle", around 10:00 p.m., he had taken a "little walk of curiosity" with his mother and after 2 to 3 minutes, he had seen in the clouds in the direction of the village and Strasbourg, white lights which twirled around, met and then moved apart again. He had spoken to his mother explaining that he thought they were "lasers fired from a nightclub near Strasbourg", but was puzzled not to see their starting points. Then he saw "below the cloud a small flashing white ball" which descended for 5 seconds then left "at a right angle and rather quickly". His mother, who had seen all of this, doubted it was a plane and so did he.

He then comes to July 22, 2008, around 11:00 p.m. - 11:50 p.m., when he was returning "from a dinner without alcohol", his mother was gardening thanks to the public lighting, saying that she didn't really dare to go into the garden in the evening any more, which made him laugh. He looks up at the sky and rejoices in the dissipation of the day's heavy clouds, but finds the atmosphere a bit heavy. He looks over the neighbor's house, and then sees three "white stars forming a triangle"; having seen this before, he doesn't really care, until three seconds later, when this starts moving, and he sees that there is a black mass between each dot of light.

He is surprised that this is loud, "extremely powerful turbines". He draws his mother's attention to the thing, he wonders whether it would be a "stealth plane or something else why not", he follows it with his eyes to the end of the street for about 50 meters. The thing moves away towards the television antenna of Nordheim. Hardly is it out of sight, when turning his head to his left he sees a very fast white ball coming from the direction of Wasselonne and going towards Strasbourg. He specifies that the Moon was behind him to his right.

At this moment, he and his mother are frightened and decide to go home; he then sees behind the houses a fast and sparkling blue ball, flying in the direction of Molsheim / Mutzig.

Data:

Temporal data:

Date: July 18, 2008
Time: Night.
Duration: Various.
First known report date: July 24, 2008
Reporting delay: 6 days.

Geographical data:

Department: Bas-Rhin
City: Wolxheim
Place: Near Wolxheim.
Latitude: 48.567
Longitude: 7.514
Uncertainty radius: 2 km.

Witnesses data:

Number of alleged witnesses: ?
Number of known witnesses: ?
Number of named witnesses: ?
Witness(es) ages: ?
Witness(es) types: ?

Ufology data:

Reporting channel: Listing of sightings by the regional ufology group SPICA.
Type of location: ?
Visibility conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: Yes
Entities: No
Photographs: No.
Sketch(s) by witness(es): No.
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): No.
Witness(es) feelings: Puzzled.
Witnesses interpretation: ?

Classifications:

Hynek: ?
ALSACAT: ?

Sources:

[Ref. myo1:] WEB BOARD "LES MYSTERES DES OVNIS":

TROESTER
Confirmed member
Male age: 41
Number of messages: 9
Registered on: 07/23/2008
Localization: MOLSHEIM
Job: DEMONSTRATOR
Hobbies: TENNIS SOCCER BIKING HIKING

Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 14:37

Hello all of you.

Well, I'm new on the website and to make me feel forced to speak of my observations, it is that frankly there are things that intrigues me.

I have already expressed to some what I have seen on July 22, this huge triangle. But I must chronologically evoke all the other points, to hget out a little what I have in me at this time

I want to say that I very rarely drink alcohol and never other tuff

First of all (with the son of my girlfriend) we went to the crope circle [sic] of Marly in June (150 km from our home) we really wanted to see one onc in our life.

In early July to the 5th or 6th

Wanting to please my girlfriend we went there on the hill 500 meters from my childhood home to spend nights under the stars, despite some cold. But we were thoroughly well covered.

First night

Despite some movements in the sky, too fast to imagine anything at all, I long fixed 3 stars in a triangle shape, I discuss about anything and everything with my girlfriend, when suddenly one of the stars starts to go, crossing without noise, the other 2 stars (a satellite?).

the 14th of July

To admire the fireworks, we get to the same place: my girlfriend, her son and I (plus other spectators, as the area is known to admire the lights) While everyone only looks at the lights, our gaze turns to a strongly sparkling star with binoculars we observe it, I do think it is a star (which really should be the case) but around are moves of small stars and quite numerous flashes.

July 18

My birthday with my darling: so we want to end the night on onour hill, we come back from dinner (I drank a glass of wine early in the lunch and nothing else on the alcohol side) my girlfriend drives when arriving at the neighboring village I notice a white ball getting down quickly and back up just as quickly making quick movements from the left to the right; (villagers continued July 14 why not ?????)

To change I propose to drive on the other hill; we park between the vines: the sky not too starry, even cloudy, it seems to me, we talk, we laugh, we kiss when my girlfriend told me is it a star, what we see there, my gaze turns to that star and there I see a strangely near and shining star, changing from white to red, but standing still (logical for a star) I stare at it 10 sec when, suddenly, just behind the star a white flashing light. we return to the homes (we started to get a little scared) when we notice on the first hill (the one of July 5/6), the same phenomenon, we park opposite it, we scrutinizes, we wonder about it, when, to destigmatize the thing, we make at it "for laughs" headlights flahes and coincidentally the star goes out.

Difficult to give details of distances and different orientation in space (I'm not too expert in the matter).

As I oftn wrote, I'll publish this evening the following events and among other the triangle of July 22 that night I will never forget

Sincerely and seriously Flo

Derek3D
Exceptional participation
MaleAge: 28
Number of messages: 763
Registered on 05/22/2008
Localization: Belgium
Job: None
Hobbies: Ufology

Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 16:10

@TROESTER wrote:

we return to the homes (we started to get a little scared)

Troester,

The first thing I think is important to tell you is this: do not be afraid.

Then would it be possible to have more details on your observations?

Place of observation,
Precise date
Precise hour (as much as possible)
Direction of the observation
Duration of the observation...

This so that qualified individuals can analyze your observations and, if necessary, provide an explanation to them.

To help, there is a small reporting form HERE

I look forward for your triangles observations of July 22.

Friendly,
Derek

TROESTER
Confirmed member
Male age: 41
Number of messages: 9
Registered on: 07/23/2008
Localization: MOLSHEIM
Job: DEMONSTRATOR
Hobbies: TENNIS SOCCER BIKING HIKING

Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 20:15

hello again dereck 3d

First of all so many phenomena in such a short time, we tell ourselves this is too much! but hey I relate what I have seen

then the village of my parents is Wolxheim in Alsace, in a lot. The estate is bordered by hills filled with vineyards 5 km from Molsheim and 20 km from Strasbourg

About 1000 residents.

one of the hill is topped by a statue in gold leaves representing the christ(place called Le Horn) central spot of my observations (except the triangle) statue lit until midnight located about 300 meters from my parents'. timing of observations, it is always in the early evening 09:45 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. to midnight to end at 1:00 a.m. then I go home.. hard to say the exact locations of the observations I will take a compass trying to remember exactly the observations(not too hard as this can never be forgotten).

Before talking about the triangle, 2 night before at 10:00 p.m., I go to the end of the lot (with my mom, "a little stroll of curiositie") 2-3 minutes pass when I see in the clouds " towards the village and Strasbourg " white lights that dance and join then part again, I told my mother thinking impressive (thinking though to laser fired from a nightclub near Strasbourg, but hey I did not see their bottom (of these lasers) and then appearing just below a small white ball flashing descading for 5 seconds and goes away at right angle and rather quickly. My mother who attends all this doubt that it was a plane and me too.

Then came July 22 at 11:00 p.m. 11:15 p.m., I returned from a not too alcoholic dinner my mother is working outside in the garden thanks to the public lights, says she does not dare go outside too much in the garden in the evening, I laugh and I look at the sky as large clouds of the day scatter, but hey I find the atmosphere a bit heavy, I gave again my attention above the neighbor's house, when I see 3 white stars in a triangle formation, having already seen this, I do not really care, until 3 seconds later it starts moving, then showing a black mass between each light, (surprisingly it is noisy extremely powerful turbines. I told my mother you see what I see, yes it's crazy !!!! (stealth aircraft or other why not) I dare to follow it to the end of the street about 50 meters, it's going to the Nordheim TV antenna, barely out of vision, I turn my head to my left there I see a very fast white ball coming from the direction of Wasselone [Wasselonne] going to Strasbourg, when I start to tell me it is best to enter the house with my mother that I joined up the street, walk again in the other direction and there behind the houses a blue ball speeds and scintillates, flying in the direction of Molsheim / Mutzig.

Last night I watched with my girlfriend and her son some weird stuff but not as weird as July 22. here I am preparing for this evening sky observation program, this time with my girlfriend only.

And if you need sharper details, please let me know I will try to localize.By the way about 22 pm when I'm at Le Horn the moon is in front of me a little bit on the right and when I saw the triangle the moon was right behind me.

Flo Very friendly

If you know people in the area who saw the same thing thank you to let me know. wolxheim it is the countryside but still there are many villages around, I dare not too much ask my neighbors.

[Ref. spa1:] "SPICA" UFOLOGY GROUP:

City Date and hour of observation General shape
Identification
General color
Hypothesis
Conclusion
WOLXHEIM Friday 18 July 2008 ball, balloon or melon (3D)
Unidentified
white
None
Unsolved -lack of info

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Sources references:

* = Source is available to me.
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File history:

Authoring:

Main author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history:

Version: Create/changed by: Date: Description:
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