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Reference for this case: 29-Nov-54-Saint-Martin-de-la-Place.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.
In 1995, ufologist Jean Sider published that he discovered a case of close encounter of the third kind by a Mr. Piednoir, on November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, Maine-et-Loire, narrated in two newspapers. The first, Le Baugeois, in Baugé, for December 3, 1954 on page 4, said that "someone noticed a flying saucer in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place". It was a very bright craft "and the Martian was 1 m 30". The flashlight of the witness went out - what sources copying Jean Sider's information, like Albert Rosales for example, called "a power outage was reported in the area at the same time."
The second newspaper, l'Echo Républicain, in Sablé, for December 11, 1954, on page 2, said that Mr. Piednoir had seen the machine landed in a wheat field, as well as its pilot, a small figure.
In November 2006, a reader of this file native of Saint-Clément-des-Levées, a village near Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, informed me that his grandparents, who operated a farm at a place called L'Oussiere, located about 1.5 km from the object's landing site, told him about "the story" when he was about 8 - he was 5 in 1954. According to them, the witness, well-known, was someone credible.
He indicates that the landing site was near a river named Authion, between the places called "Le Guet de Fresne", community of Saint-Martin, and "Les Pâtures", towards Saint-Clément.
[Ref. ldl1:] LDLN - JEAN SIDER:
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Mr. Piednoir saw a very luminous craft, posed in a wheat field, as well as its pilot, whose size he estimated at 1.30 m. The flashlight of the witness went out.
source:
Le Baugeois, Baugé, 3.12.54, p.4
L'Echo Républicain, Sablé, 11 .12.54, p.2
Jean Sider indique qu'il n'est pas question de "cautionner tous ces récits les yeux fermés" car certains sont peut-être "des plaisanteries faites à des journaux par des lecteurs facétieux", et d'autres sont trop concis pour être analysés corretement. Il trouve néanmoins que "la majorité d'entre eux puisse" concernent des "phènomènes réellement observés" que des contre-enqu'etes même tardives pourraient clarifier, et que beaucoup de cas montrent des "effets phyisiologiques" qu'il estime être une constante bien souvent notée par les enquêteurs depuis 40 ans.
[Ref. jsr1:] JEAN SIDER:
The author indicates that on November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, the Maine-et-Loire, there was a close encounter of the third kind by Mr. Piednoir.
Jean Sider says that according to Le Baugeois, of Baugé, for December 3, 1954, page 4, "somebody noticed a flying saucer in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place". It was a very luminous machine "and the Martian was 1 m 30". The lamp of the witness went extinct.
According to L'Echo Républicain, of Sablé, for December 11, 1954, page 2: Mr. Piednoir had seen the machine posed in a wheat field, as well as its pilot, a character of small size.
[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":
4430: 1954/11/29 19:00 1 0:09:00 W 47:19:00 N 3332 WEU FRN M&L 8:6
St.MARTIN-dl-PLACE, FR:1 OBS:LUMN OBJ^/WHEATFIELD+1.2M OID OUTSIDE:POWER OUTAGE
Ref#194 LUMIERES dans la NUIT.(LDLN France)Issue No. 325 : FARMLANDS
[Ref. ars1:] ALBERT ROSALES:
238.
Location. St Martin De La Place France
Date: November 29 1954
Time: 1900
One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information.
HC addition # 2397
Source: LDLN # 325
Type: C
[Ref. pgs1:] PERSONAL EMAIL:
| Date written: | November 19, 2006 |
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| Date received: | November 19, 2006 |
| Date published: | February 11, 2007 |
| Date of sighting: | November 29, 1954 |
| Place of sighting: | France, Maine-et-Loire, Saint-Martin de la Place |
| Original language of report: | French |
| Reported using: | |
| Unreleased information: | Name, firstname, email address, street address |
Subject: UFO saint martin de la place (maine et loire)
Date: November 19, 2006
From: [Pseudonym]@aol.com
hello,
In following of your UFO description St Martin de la Place, I confirm the occurrence to you.
Native of St clément des levées, a village close to St Martin, my grandparents managed a farm at the locality l'oussiere, in St clement, farm located at approximately 1,5km of the place of the landing of the object, located on the community of St Martin, in proximity of a river named authion, between the locations "le Guet de Fresne", community of St Martin, and "Patures" near St clement.
Aged 5 years at the time, my grandparents told me about "the story" about my eighth year.
According to their statements, the witness, well-knowd, was worthy of faith.
Now aged 57, it will be difficult for me to find the descent of the witness, i forgot his name.
I immediatly start investigations at people of more than 80 years old for additional information.
According to your website, the same facts occurred on the community of blaison gohier on November 20, 1954, that is, 4 days before
St Martin the distance between the two villages, in straight line, is of approximately 6 km.
It is, in my opinion, difficult to question the word of the witnesses, certainly brave farmers,"amazed at their vision"!
I will inform you of my research being half-way of the two concerned villages.
Yours sincerely [Initials]
[Firstname Name]
[Street addres]
49250
beaufort en vallée
[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:
The website indicates that on 29 November 1954 at 19:00 in St Martin De La Place, France, "One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information."
The source is a link to a non-existent web page.
[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":
*Nov. 29, 1954 - At seven p.m. a single witness saw a luminous object that had landed in a wheatfield in St. Martin-d'L-Place, Maine-et-Loire, France at the same time as a power outage. A 1.2 meter (4 foot) tall humanoid was seen standing next to it. (Source: Larry Hatch, U computer database, case 4197, citing Lumieres dans la Nuit, issue #325).
[Ref. tai1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:
Location: St Martin De La Place France
Date: November 29 1954
Time: 1900
One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information.
Source: LDLN # 325
[Ref. jgz1:] JULIEN GONZALEZ:
The author indicates that there was a close encounter of the third kind in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, the Maine-et-Loire, on the evening of November 29, 1954, with Mr. Piednoir as witness.
He had seen a very luminous machine posed in a wheat field and the pilot of the machine, 1 m 30 tall; and "the lamp was reported to go extinct".
The sources are indicated as Le Beaugeois, of Beaugé, for December 3, 1954; L'Echo Républicain, of Sablé, for December 11 1954; Jean Sider, Le Dossier 1954 et l'imposture rationaliste, pages 227-228.
[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":
November 29 1954. SAINTE [sic] MARTIN DEL [sic] LA PLACE (MAINE ET LOIRE : FRANCE)
At the time of a power outrage [sic], a luminous figure was seen in a wheat field, with a short humanoid figure beside it. (Gross URECAT citing Rosales citing Lumieres dans le Nuit 325)
Note: The source reference "Gross URECAT" is my file as it appears in my CE3 catalogue URECAT; the file content is the same as this page of my France 1954 catalogue.
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Here is probably one of the poorest reports ever since except a date, a village name, a time, mention of a luminous thing and a small humanoid, no other information seems available for a case that emerged more than 40 years after it allegedly occurred.
The report is much too meager to evaluate.
(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)
Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Maine-et-Loire, object, luminous, field, occupant, small, humanoid, outage, power, night
[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | July 21, 2007 | First published. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | June 11, 2009 | Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [uda1]. |
| 1.1 | Patrick Gross | October 19, 2014 | Addition [nip1]. |
| 1.2 | Patrick Gross | October 25, 2016 | Additions [jsr1], [jgz1]. |
| 1.3 | Patrick Gross | November 22, 2016 | Addition [tai1], Summary. |
| 1.4 | Patrick Gross | November 25, 2018 | Additions [lhh1], [prn2]. Summary changed, was "On November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Maine-et-Loire, France, someone saw a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time." |
| 1.5 | Patrick Gross | January 25, 2020 | Addition [ldl1]. Ine the Summary, "In 1997, In 1997, ufologist Jean Sider told" changed to "In 1995, ufologist Jean Sider published that |
