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NOVEMBER 24, 1978, GERENA, SEVILLA, SPAIN, MANUEL GORDILLO, FRANCISCO LOPEZ GORDILLO:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Several Spanish ufologist, J. Ignacio Alonso, Joaquin Mateos Nogales, J. Antonio Gutierrez, Manuel Filipo Cabana, and Antonio Moya Cerpa, investigated a close encounter of the third kind that occurred on November 24, 1978.

Five people were in a nocturnal hunting party just east of the Guadiamar River in the area between the towns of Gerena, Aznalcollar, and Olivares, in the province of Seville, southwestern Spain, at at approximately 6°20' west longitude and 37°30' north latitude. The place is part of the estate "La Pizana," 3 kilometers (2 miles) southwest of Gerena. Its principal characteristics are: low hills with some farming, clumps of eucalyptus trees, vegetation located especially near the Guadiamar River, the remains of a Roman aqueduct, and beef cattle. The place where the incident occurred is a very dense grove, primarily of eucalyptus trees, with some open areas inside.

They each had a six-battery flashlight. The night was dark, with no wind, good visibility, normal temperature, under a rather cloudy sky.

As one of the friends decided to return to the car, he saw nothing of what subsequently happened.

The other four went into the thick grove, after having waded across the stream. It was about 3:30 a.m. of the 25th. They had been there several hours already, and, using their powerful flashlights, continued looking for their prey between the trees, following a road made by tractors.

Witness Manuel Gordillo told the investigators that while still on the other side of the river, he alerted others' attention to what he thought were the red lights of the back of a car. A Gypsy who were with them, and could not be interviewed, said, according to Gordillo, "Hey, what is that? In my mother's name, in my grandmother's name, what is that? That is a strange thing."

Gordillo said that the hunters were seeing these red lights on the ground in the distance, they put out the flashlights and approached. The closer they got, the more light was seen, and then he thought that it was not a car: if it were, it would be going away from them but instead they approached, the lights were more and more visible and still they could not see the drivers.

Gordillo said that they then went off the track a little, crossed the river to the other side, where the light was. They began to hunt and forgot what they had seen, enthusiastic about the hunting.

At one point, Gordillo was then practically alone, without hearing of the others. He shone the light here and there and didn't see anyone, turned off his flashlight and whistled for the others to answer. Then they turned on their flashlights and came to him quickly and asked: "Hey, didn't you see that again?"

He hadn't, so they told him that there was really was a light there, and when he proposed to go closer check the light, they were very scared. They saw the red light, it was doing a strange shaking. Gordillo asked them to look at him from behind as he was going to get a little closer.

Another of the hunters, Francisco Lopez Rivero, wanted to approach with him, and the two went on ahead of the other two.

As they neared the place where the red light was, they saw that it was not just a single light, but a row of lights, and there was a person or something walking around it. Gordillo said he was now within 30 meters of the lights.

Lopez Rivero who was remaining a little behind remained Gordillo, observed the seen in a similar manner, and told that the object seemed to him like a large earthen jar, upside down, with a red light on top, stationary. Toward the center of the object he saw several rows of lights of different colors, green , orange, red, and yellow.

Gordillo could not see everything, because of the vegetation, and he could not see how tall the being was, he saw only the legs but he saw that these legs were very big.

The light was behind the being, and he could not make out well what he was wearing. It seemed to him that the being was wearing shoes or boots, and he was speaking, with a voice that sounded as if he was in a deep well, with sounds like "Mnn, mmm." The steps the being took were slow, he came toward where the two men were, approaching up to 10 meters, was lost of sight.

Lopez also observed the beings' legs, indicated they were bright-colored, silvery. He had the impression that at the height of the man's eyes and mouth, there was a window, like on a motorcyclist's helmet. He too only saw the figure to the waist, and did not see the arms and the waist. The helmet was black or dark, and the rest of the body silvery. As to the sounds emitted by the being; as well as his movements, he agrees with Gordillo. Lopez specified that the being seemed to be a very strong and tall being, of some two meters or more.

Gordillo explained that he was a little afraid then and thought of his wife and his children, and started to feel very unsafe.

The object seemed round to Gordillo, and it was near the ground. The lights were low, at about 3 meters high, and must have been about 4 or 5 meters across. They were of different colors.

The being went back to the lights, then approached again and grabbed something. Then, Gordillo saw him either go into or behind the object with the lights - he didn't see any door in the object.

Gordillo said that finally, they got out of there, running, very scared. They no longer felt like hunting. As the run away, he fell, and the others fell on top of me.

On Sunday, January 14, 1979, the investigators went to the site of the supposed landing with Francisco Lopez. After certain difficulties in finding the spot where his observation was made, they carefully studied the ground and observed the following:

The place is, as a matter of fact, very wooded, and it is not easy to see. Nevertheless, the exact place where it is supposed that the object landed is a rather circular area, where the trees themselves are situated in this curious geometric pattern. The land was relatively soft, due to the rains that had fallen since before November. They found no sign of traces except for a curious footprint, which seemed to have been impressed into the ground many days before. After carefully drawing the mark, they measured it, and its size was 42 cm. Several meters farther on they found two more marks, made in the soil, and they were the same size as the first. The appropriate experiments showed the mark, in proportion to the height, would correspond to an individual some two meters, ten centimeters (6'11") tall. The distance between the marks was about 13 meters (43 feet). The corresponding drawings were published.

During the field investigation, witness Francisco Lopez Rivero gave certain additional details that allowed investigator Antonio Moya Cerpa to make drawings in his presence that he approved.

The investigation report was published in September 1979 initially, and appeared in several ufology bulletin afterwards, also in English and French.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000131
Date of event: November 1978
Earliest report of event: September 1979
Delay of report: 10 months or less.
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Local ufologists investigation report.
First certain record by: Local ufologists investigation report.
First alleged record type: Local ufologists investigation report.
First certain record type: Local ufologists investigation report.
This file created on: March 11, 2007
This file last updated on: March 11, 2007
Country of event: Spain
State/Department: Sevilla
Type of location: Wooded country
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages:
Witnesses types: Not known.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: Yes.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: 2 meters or more
Entities outfit type: Outfit, dark helmet, dark visor on face.
Entities outfit color: Silvery or shining.
Entities skin color: Not visible.
Entities body: Strong.
Entities head: Visor on face.
Entities eyes: Not visible, visor.
Entities mouth: Not visible, visor.
Entities nose: Not visible, visor.
Entities feet: Shoes or boots.
Entities arms: Not visible.
Entities fingers: Not visible.
Entities fingers number: Not visible.
Entities hair: Not visible.
Entities voice: Unclear humming voice.
Entities actions: Was out of UFO, picked up something, walked around.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Curious, went to observe, became frightened, run away.
Witness(es) feelings: Curious then frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial beings.
Explanation certainty: Medium.

Narratives:

[Ref. id1:] IGNACIO DARNAUDE:

Illustration of the article.

Humanoid Near Gerena, Spain

By Ignacio Darnaude

One Friday in late November, 1978, the four witnesses, plus another friend, were hunting just east of the Guadiamar River in the area between the towns of Gerena, Aznalcollar, and Olivares, in the province of Seville, southwestern Spain.

They each had a six-battery flashlight. The night was dark, without any wind, with good visibility and temperature, under a rather cloudy sky. One of the friends decided to return to the car, so he saw nothing of what subsequently happened.

The area of the observation is at approximately 6°20' west longitude and 37°30' north latitude. It is part of the estate "La Pizana," 3 kilometers (2 miles) southwest of Gerena. Its principal characteristics are: low hills with some farming, clumps of eucalyptus trees, vegetation located especially near the Guadiamar River, the remains of a Roman aqueduct, and beef cattle. The place where the incident occurred is a very dense grove, primarily of eucalyptus trees, with some open areas inside.

Our four witnesses went into the thick grove, after having waded across the stream. It was about 3:30 a.m. They had been there several hours already, and, using their powerful flashlights, continued looking for their prey between the trees, following a road made by tractors. But let witness Manuel Gordillo tell us what happened:

"While still on the other side of the river, I told the others, 'Wait a moment, look at the red lights of a car.' The gypsy who was with us (who could not be interviewed — I.D.) began to say 'Hey, what is that? In my mother's name, in my grandmother's name, what is that?' 'That is a strange thing.' We were seeing it on the ground in the distance. We put out the flashlights and approached. The closer we got, the more light was seen, and then I thought, well it isn't a car. If the car had its back to us, we would have been looking at the drivers, but since we were walking, it was not logical for it to be always red. Then we threw it off the track a little. We crossed the river to the other side, where it was. We began to hunt and forgot what we had seen, enthusiastic in what we were doing. I was practically alone, without hearing any of the others. I shone the light here and there and didn't see anyone. I turned off my flashlight and whistled for them to answer. Then they turned on their flashlights and I said to myself, 'There they are,' because with the trees no one could be seen. Then they came quickly and asked me, 'Hey, didn't you see that again?' I really hadn't seen it, until they told me about it. What we had seen from the other side was still in that place. There was really a light there, and then I told them, 'Are we going to get closer?' They were very scared. The red light was there and it was doing a strange thing, as if it was shaking. Then I told them, 'Watch me from behind, I'm going to get a little closer.'

"The trees did not let us see the place completely. Another companion wanted to approach with me, and we went on ahead of the other two. There was a person or something walking around it."

It was not just one light, but a row of lights. He could not see everything, and didn't know how tall the being was. But his legs were very big, and he saw just the legs.

"The object seemed round to me, and it was near the ground, right close to the ground. The lights were low. They were about 3 meters (10 feet) high and they must have been about 4 or 5 meters (13 or 16 feet) across. The lights were of different colors. The man advanced about ten meters (33 feet) and we lost sight of him. He approached again and grabbed something. I don't know if he went in the object or around it, I couldn't see. I didn't see any door in the object."

"I saw the man up to the waist, as I was stretched out on the ground. The light was behind him, and I couldn't make out well what he was wearing. It seemed to me he was wearing shoes or boots, and he was speaking. The voice seemed as if he was in a deep well, it was like 'Mnn, mmm.' The steps were slow, he came toward where we were and went back. I was a little afraid, and I thought of my wife and my children, so I didn't feel very safe."

"The object was about 30 meters (100 feet) away, and the man approached us. Finally, we got out of there very scared. We no longer felt like hunting. So we left running, and I fell and the others fell on top of me."

From Francisco Lopez Rivero's testimony we can indicate the following: This witness remained behind his companion, and observed the scene in a similar manner, though with additional details. The object seemed to him like a large earthen jar, upside down, with a red light on top, stationary. Toward the center of the object he saw several rows of lights of different colors, green , orange, red, and yellow. A little below he observed some bright-colored, silvery legs. He had the impression that at the height of the man's eyes and mouth there was a window, like on a motorcyclist's helmet. He only saw the figure to the waist, and didn't see any arms. The helmet was black or dark, and the rest of the body silvery. As to the sounds emitted by the being; as well as his movements, he agrees with the other witness. He seemed to be a very strong and tall being, of some two meters (6'7") or more.

On Sunday, January 14, 1979, the investigators went to the site of the supposed landing with Francisco Lopez. After certain difficulties in finding the spot where his observation was made, they carefully studied the ground and observed the following:

The place is, as a matter of fact, very wooded, and it is not easy to see. Nevertheless, the exact place where it is supposed that the object landed is a rather circular area, where the trees themselves are situated in this curious geometric pattern. The land was relatively soft, due to the rains that had fallen since before November. They found no sign of traces except for a curious footprint, which seemed to have been impressed into the ground many days before. After carefully drawing the mark, they measured it, and its size was 42 cm. (16.5 inches). Several meters (yards) farther on they found two more marks, made in the soil, and they were the same size as the first. The appropriate experiments showed the mark, in proportion to the height, would correspond to an individual some two meters, ten centimeters (6'11") tall. The distance between the marks was about 13 meters (43 feet).

Thanks to this field investigation, witness Francisco Lopez Rivero gave certain additional details that allowed investigator Antonio Moya Cerpa to make drawings in his presence that he approved, which are included in this report.

Investigators: J. Ignacio Alonso, Joaquin Mateos Nogales, J. Antonio Gutierrez, Manuel Filipo Cabana, and Antonio Moya Cerpa.

The article originally appeared in Vimana 1:4, pp. 34-35. Vimana is published by: C.I.O.V.E., Rualasal, 22; Santander, Spain. Translation (and slight editing) by Richard W. Heiden.

[Ref. am1:] ANTONIO MOYA CERPA:

This ufologist reports that he carried out the investigation, accompanied by the ufologists J. Ignacio Alonso, Joaquin Mateos, J. Antonio Gutiérrez, on a case in the south of Spain, within some 3 kilometers in the south-west of Gerena, province of Sevilla.

One Friday in the end of November 1978, at approximately 03:30 of the morning, four people were hunting, and observed within approximately 30 meters of them, an object which had the shape of an upside-down jug, with lines of small lights of different color and a large red light on the top.

In front of this object, a large and strong individual, equipped with a black and bulky helmet, moved slowly while emitting strange sounds.

The investigators found three prints of 42 cm length on the spot, and the distances that separated these prints was 13 meters.

Sketch by Antonio Moya Cerpa.

Sketch by Antonio Moya Cerpa.

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Gerena, Sevilla, Spain, on November 24, 1978, at 03:30 a.m., four men were out hunting in a wooded hilly area near the River Guadiamar, when they all saw a red light on the ground within a nearby eucalyptus grove.

They all carried bright lanterns and continued looking for game, crossing the river as they did, forgetting about the red light for a few moments.

They then noticed that the light was now at a nearby clearing in the woods. Two of the witnesses approached the area, the others remained behind.

The two men saw, partially hidden by some trees a large bowl shaped craft with a red light on top and with numerous multicolored lights on the front, it rested on two shiny silvery legs.

Next to the object stood a tall, heavy set human like figure, it seem to be wearing a large round black helmet and it had a glass like visor on the face area. His clothing was silvery and he was wearing large boots.

The being walked slowly back and forth in front of the object, at one point it approached the witnesses briefly. It emitted a low hum like sound.

The men became frightened and left the area.

Large footprints were found at the site.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is Ballester Olmos and Fernandez Peri: Enciclopedia De Los Encuentros Cercanos Con Ovnis.

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 24 November 1978 03:30, in "Gerena Guadiamar Ri, Spain", "Unintelligible language: helmeted man outside 3m wide jug shaped object. Makes mumbling noises. Seen by four hunters. An object was observed. Traces found. One jar-shaped object, about 20 feet across, was observed by four male witnesses in a forest for over one minute (Gordillo). No sound was heard. One being, wearing a helmet, was seen."

The sources are indicated as Webb, David, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports; Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, APRO Bulletin, APRO, Tucson; Lumieres dans la Nuit, Lumieres dans la Nuit; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002; Smith, Willy, UNICAT computer database.

Points to consider:

The date:

The sighting is dated one of the Fridays in late November 1978 in investigators' reports.

The calendar shows that in the second half of November, there was a Friday 17th and a Friday 24th. Because the 17th does not well qualify as a day in late November, the correct date is probably, but not absolutely certainly, the 24th.

On another side, the four witnesses had gone hunting out in the night and the alleged encounter is towards 03:00 of the morning. Being given that Friday is a working day and that saturday is not, it is quite probable though not certain, that the four hunters began their hunting party in the evening of Friday the 24th and had the encounter in the night from the 24th to the 25th, a formal sighting date would then be Saturday, November 25, 1978.

The above is in conformity with a scenario in which the hunters did not report their alleged encounter immediately to the investigating ufologists, perhaps keeping it to themselves, and it might have filtered out by indiscretion or because they finally decided some later to talk about it.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Medium March 11, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing the article by Ignacio Darnaude, in the ufology bulletin Vimana, CIOVE, Santander, Spain, volume 1 #4. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial beings.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

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