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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

BEG, OF FALL 1965, ROSS, NORTH DAKOTA, USA, SOMEONE:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

In 2003, a ufologist published a witness report in the MUFON journal, about a sighting 3/4 miles from Ross, North Dakota, USA, on farm land of the Keith family in 1965:

"It was about 11 PM central time. Early fall. Moonlit night. I saw the craft after noticing light reflecting off of it. I then took a rifle with a good scope, set it on the window ledge, and viewed the craft."

"I could see it had two occupants in flights helmets and wearing military type suits. I could see faces through the helmets after I switched to my refractive telescope. They were human, and most probably military."

"The craft was a greyish silver, saucer shaped, with three supports, i.e. tripod struts. A windshield wrapped partly around the craft in front. It had what I now assumed were flight surfaces, but no flaps or such as traditional winged craft use."

"It sat there for perhaps less than an hour. I was doing something in the room, while I sat on my desk watching it. My eyes got tired viewing though the scope and telescope. When I looked up, it was gone. No engine sound or roar."

"I did go to where I though the craft had sat, and in a rather freshly cultivated field the pads had make inprints about an inch & 1/2 to 2 in. Days later, while driving back roads, we noticed an enclosed wagon setting off the road in a real rural area with an Air Force pick-up sitting beside it. An airman was standing with an M-16 (AR-15?) on guard."

"We stopped and began talking with him, and eventually with the two others inside, and asked what they were doing. As it had a radar dish on top of the wagon, they replied they were supporting helicopters, while the Minute Man Missiles were being installed."

"However, perhaps after about 2 hours or so, I asked the first airman about what they were really up to, and told him about the craft I had seen. He said, that's what they were really up to-supporting this new surveillance craft."

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000742
Date of event: Beginning Fall 1965
Earliest report of event: 2003
Delay of report: 1965
Witness reported via: Not known. Probably letter to ufologist
First alleged record by: N/A.
First certain record by: Witness report in MUFON ufology magazine.
First alleged record type: N/A.
First certain record type: Witness report in MUFON ufology magazine.
This file created on: June 30, 2008
This file last updated on: June 30, 2008
Country of event: USA
State/Department: North Dakota
Type of location: In field seen from inside home.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Young adult or adult.
Witnesses types: Not reported.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: Yes.
Witnesses-approved drawing: N/A.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Human
Entities height: Not reported
Entities outfit type: Flight helmet, military looking flight suit.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported. Face seen.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Were in UFO.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, looked for traces.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: New US Air Force surveillance craft.
Explanation category: Possible invention. No credibility.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. rm1:] RICHARD MOSS:

Craft, occupants observed on ground by witness

MUFON Investigator: Richard Moss
The craft was sighted 3/4 miles from Ross, ND, on farm land of the Keith Family in the fall of 1965.

Witness narrative:

It was about 11 PM central time. Early fall. Moonlit night. I saw the craft after noticing light reflecting off of it. I then took a rifle with a good scope, set it on the window ledge, and viewed the craft.

I could see it had two occupants in flights helmets and wearing military type suits. I could see faces through the helmets after I switched to my refractive telescope. They were human, and most probably military.

The craft was a greyish silver, saucer shaped, with three supports, i.e. tripod struts. A windshield wrapped partly around the craft in front. It had what I now assumed were flight surfaces, but no flaps or such as traditional winged craft use.

It sat there for perhaps less than an hour. I was doing something in the room, while I sat on my desk watching it. My eyes got tired viewing though the scope and telescope. When I looked up, it was gone. No engine sound or roar.

I did go to where I though the craft had sat, and in a rather freshly cultivated field the pads had make inprints about an inch & 1/2 to 2 in. Days later, while driving back roads, we noticed an enclosed wagon setting off the road in a real rural area with an Air Force pick-up sitting beside it. An airman was standing with an M-16 (AR-15?) on guard.

We stopped and began talking with him, and eventually with the two others inside, and asked what they were doing. As it had a radar dish on top of the wagon, they replied they were supporting helicopters, while the Minute Man Missiles were being installed.

However, perhaps after about 2 hours or so, I asked the first airman about what they were really up to, and told him about the craft I had seen. He said, that's what they were really up to-supporting this new surveillance craft.

A sketch is with this report:

Sketch

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in 3/4 mile from Ross, North Dakota, on September 1965, at 2300, on the farm land belonging to the Keith Meiers family, on a moonlit night the witness noticed a UFO after seeing some flashes of light, he then grabbed a rifle with a strong scope sat on the window ledge and viewed the craft. He could see that it had two occupants in flight helmets and wearing military style flight suits. He could see their faces through the helmets after he switched to his refractive telescope. They were human and he presumed most probably military. The craft was grayish silver, saucer-shaped with three tripod shaped struts. A window wrapped partly around the front of the craft. It had what he assumed were flight surfaces, but no flaps or such as traditional winged craft use. It remained in the area for perhaps less than an hour. As the witness sat on his desk in the room he continued watching the craft. His eyes eventually tired while viewing through the scope and when he looked up it was gone, no engine sound or roar. He did go to where he thought the craft had sat and in a rather freshly cultivated field the landing props had made imprints about an inch and ½ to 2 inches. Days later while driving the back roads, the witness and other men noticed an enclosed wagon sitting off the road in a very rural area with an Air Force pickup truck parked next to it. An airman was standing with an M-16 rifle on guard. The men stopped and began talking to him, and eventually with the others inside and asked what they were doing. As the wagon had a radar dish on top, they replied they were supporting helicopters while the Minuteman missiles were being installed (likely at Grand Forks strategic missile base). However, perhaps after 2 hours or so the witness asked the first airman what they were really doing and told him about the craft he had seen. The airman said that's what they were really doing, "supporting this new surveillance craft". (In fact they were probably sent to investigate the landing of this UFO which was probably detected by radar (this comment by A Anfalov).

Albert Rosales indicates as source MUFON UFO Journal January 2003 #417.

Points to consider:

The fact that the US Air Force never had any craft as the one allegedly seen in 1965 by the report's author is clearly indicative of a hoax. This is reinforced by the fact that there has been no such craft in the next decades.

It must be understood that the report is obviously only a person's claim, with obviously no attempt at all the verify the story, and no investigation into the eprson or into his claims.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Ufology Severe June 30, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross The case is only a person's story with no follow-up investigation. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe June 30, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No elements of credibility. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Medium June 30, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Illogical witness behaviour: viewing craft for so long with telescope whereas it was on the ground - witness had no issues going to talk to military people a few days later. Help needed. Opened.
4 Ufology Severe June 30, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Sketch of "classical saucer", sterotyped, design non-esistent in human aeronautics in 1965 and since. Help needed. Opened.
5 Ufology Severe June 30, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness case. - -

Evaluation:

Possible invention. No credibility.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross June 30, 2008 Creation, [1], [1], [1].
1.0 Patrick Gross June 30, 2008 First published.

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