DECEMBER 1957, SNYDERS LAKE, NEW YORK, USA, L. ROBINSON:
Brief summary of the event and follow-up:
Surviving as meager summaries in the skeptical ufology literature, a story of unclear origin apparently from 1959 tells about one Mr. L. Robinson, whom in December 1957, in Snyders Lake, New York, drove on Route 66 at night in the rain, and saw an object fall into that Lake.
It is said that he investigated and noticed a blue light being given off from a small semi-circular object. A bluish-gold light flashed three times and three men of normal height appeared, they wore golden suits radiating changing colors.
One of them is said to have approached and talked to Robinson in "perfect English" for three hours, then these men left.
Basic information table:
Case number:
URECAT-000308
Date of event:
December 1957
Earliest report of event:
March 1959
Delay of report:
2 years.
Witness reported via:
Not known.
First alleged record by:
Minor ufology bulletin.
First certain record by:
Ufology skeptical book.
First alleged record type:
Minor ufology bulletin.
First certain record type:
Ufology skeptical book.
This file created on:
September 25, 2007
This file last updated on:
September 25, 2007
Country of event:
USA
State/Department:
New York
Type of location:
Route 66 near lake.
Lighting conditions:
Night
UFO observed:
Yes
UFO arrival observed:
Yes
UFO departure observed:
Not reported.
UFO/Entity Relation:
Uncertain
Witnesses numbers:
1
Witnesses ages:
Not reported. young adult or adult.
Witnesses types:
Not reported. Man.
Photograph(s):
No.
Witnesses drawing:
No.
Witnesses-approved drawing:
No.
Number of entities:
3
Type of entities:
Human
Entities height:
Normal
Entities outfit type:
Suits
Entities outfit color:
Golden radiating changing lights.
Entities skin color:
Not reported.
Entities body:
Normal.
Entities head:
Not reported.
Entities eyes:
Not reported.
Entities mouth:
Not reported.
Entities nose:
Not reported.
Entities feet:
Not reported.
Entities arms:
Not reported.
Entities fingers:
Not reported.
Entities fingers number:
Not reported.
Entities hair:
Not reported.
Entities voice:
Speak in perfect English.
Entities actions:
One of 3 approach and talks 3 hours with witness, then all left.
Entities/witness interactions:
Talk to witness 3 hours long.
Witness(es) reactions:
Investigated, observed, listened.
Witness(es) feelings:
Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation:
Not reported.
Explanation category:
"Contactee" type tall-tale.
Explanation certainty:
Medium.
Narratives:
[Ref. bh1:] ROBERT E. BARTHOLOMEW AND GEORGE S. HOWARD:
The authors indicate that on December 1957, in Snyders Lake, New York, at night, driving on Route 66 in the rain, Mr. L. Robinson saw an object fall into Snyders Lake.
He investigated and noticed a blue light being given off from a small semi-circular object. A bluish-gold light flashed three times and three men of normal height appeared, they wore golden suits radiating changing colors.
One of them approached and talked to Robinson in "perfect English" for three hours, then these men left.
The authors indicate that the sources are the Metempirical UFO Bulletin (MUFOB), 14, no. 48 (Spring 1979): 10, citing UFO Critical Bulletin ill 2: 5., and also, Saucers, Space and Science (March 1959).
They note that the account appears in MUFOB as part of Peter Rogerson's international catalogue of "type 1" UFO records.
Points to consider:
The only source which is available to me is meager in information; however it is about one single and unidentifiable witness describing men, one of them speaking perfect English, and a three hours long speech with no detail on the contents of this conversation. It probably amounts to the usually silly "alien message" and a minor "contactee" tale which did not have much success, obviously, except in the skeptical ufology literature.
List of issues:
Id:
Topic:
Severity:
Date noted:
Raised by:
Noted by:
Description:
Proposal:
Status:
1
Data
Severe
September 25, 2007
Patrick Gross
Patrick Gross
Primary source not available.
Help needed.
Opened.
2
Ufology
Severe
September 25, 2007
Patrick Gross
Patrick Gross
No credibility: no exact date, single untraceable witness, origin of story not told, no trace of investigation, sparse description and generally insufficient information.
Help needed.
Opened.
Evaluation:
"Contactee" type tall-tale.
Sources references:
* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.
[---] ? Ufology bulletin Saucers, Space and Science, Canada, March 1959.
[---] ? Ufology bulletin UFO Critical Bulletin, J. Escobar Faria editor, Sao Paulo, Brazil, volume 2, #5.
[---] ? "International Catalogue of Type 1 UFO Records", compiled by Peter Rogerson, in the ufology magazine Metempirical UFO Bulletin (MUFOB), U.K., Volume 14, #48, page 10, Spring 1979.
[bh1] * "UFOs and Alien Contacts - Two Centuries of Mystery", book by Robert E. Bartholomew and George S. Howard, Prometheus Books publisher, New York, USA, page 310, 1998.
