ALSACAT-2017-06-19-HOHNECK-1
On the ufology forum Les Mystères des OVNIS, on June 20, 2017, "Flirden", a 70-year-old retiree from Essey-les-Nancy, reports having found a "black blurry cylinder", which would be "an unusual UFO phenomenon", on a photo he had taken on June 19, 2017, around 5 p.m., at the Hohneck, in the Vosges or the Haut-Rhin. He said:
"Around 5 p.m. on a walk towards "Le Hohneck-La Bresse-Vosges", going up to the top I have a photo of the restaurant at the top, given the beautiful blue sky with some white clouds. I saw on a computer the "black cylinder-shaped" object but blurry."
"Flirden" had seen nothing at the time he took that photo, but nevertheless filled in the fields of the observation questionnaire with data that do not make sense, such as an observation time of "about 1 minute" and a size of "15 m" for the UFO!
On the forum, participants discussed the solution: the "fuzzy UFO" was probably an insect or a bird. "Flirden", having perhaps realized his misinterpretation, removed the photo and did not respond to the questions.
| Date: | June 19, 2017 |
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| Time: | 05:00 p.m. |
| Duration: | N/A |
| First known report date: | June 20, 2017 |
| Reporting delay: | 1 day. |
| Department: | Haut-Rhin |
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| City: | N/A |
| Place: | At the Hohneck |
| Latitude: | 48.037 |
| Longitude: | 7.015 |
| Uncertainty radius: | 4 km. |
| Number of alleged witnesses: | 1 |
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| Number of known witnesses: | 1 |
| Number of named witnesses: | 0 |
| Witness(es) ages: | 70 |
| Witness(es) types: | Retired man. |
| Reporting channel: | By the web to the ufology board "Les Mystères des OVNIS". |
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| Type of location: | Mountain. |
| Visibility conditions: | Day, clear sky. |
| UFO observed: | Yes |
| UFO arrival observed: | Yes |
| UFO departure observed: | Yes |
| Entities: | No |
| Photographs: | Yes. |
| Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
| Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
| Witnesses interpretation: | UFO. |
| Hynek: | BLURFO |
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| ALSACAT: | Insect or bird. |
[Ref. myo1:] FORUM D'UFOLOGIE "LES MYSTERES DES OVNIS":
Flirden
Good participation
Male Age: 70
Number of messages: 20
Registered on: 05/13/2011
Localization: Essey les Nancy
Job: reteried
Hobbies: aviation
2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m.- blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
lon Tue June 20, 2017, 11:43 a.m.
Ufo observation 2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m. - blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
Firstname or pseudo: flirden
City: le honheck "La Bresse"
Department: Vosges (Dep.88)
Region: Lorraine
Country: France
Date: 06/196/2017
Hour of the start of the observation: about 5 p.m.
Duration of the observation: about 1mn
Weather conditions: clear sky
Number of witnesses: 2
Type of phenomenon: blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon
Signalement officiel: Non
Full report of the observation:
Around 5 p.m. on a walk near "Le Honheck-La Bresse-Vosges", going up to the top I have a photo of the restaurant at the top, given the beautiful blue sky with some white clouds. I noticed on a computer the "black cylinder-shaped" object, but blurry.
Precise description: black blurry cylinder
Color: black
Size of the phenomenon: 15 m approx
Behavior: motionless
Trajectory: East 45° - East 45°
Specific noise: No
Specific odor: No
Direction of the object relative to the wind: not specified
Presence of installations: not specified
Similar photo: not specified
Table: not specified
Field investigation requested:
Investigator in charge of the file:
Keywords: Ovni,Ufo, Ufology, Witnesscylinder black blurry, Lorraine, France, about 5 p.m., 19, black blurry cylinder,
I certify on my honor the accuracy of the information communicated and the authenticity of the documents provided. I do not know how to identify this phenomenon thank you in advance for your answers.
Refards flirden
Alain.M
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Re: 2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m.- blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
on Tue June 20, 2017, 02:54 p.m.
Hello,
May we see the original photo?
The image host https://www.hostingpics.net allows to keep the metadata of the photo (exposure, aperture, etc...).
If the object was not observed live, it is very likely that it is a "conventional" object. If it is blurry, it is either because it is out of focus, or because it moves too fast compared to the exposure time of the photo, or both.
CU.
Stéphane T
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Male Age: 57
Number of messages: 255
Registered on: 08/10/2013
Localization: Le Havre
Job: Chemisttry Technician
Hobbies: Photo Shooting Scuba diving IT
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maboullette/sets/
Re: 2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m.- blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
on Thu June 22, 2017, 12:21
Hello,
not easy to extrapolate from a blurry photo...
any object or bird could give you the appearance of a cylinder... either because it is due to insufficiently stable camera shake when shooting, or because it is is the exposure time which is too long and the object or the animal has time to move...
but it would be good if you let us see your photo and we can access the exifs...
Didier.B
Ufologist/Investigator
Male Age: 56
Number of messages: 4584
Registered on: 01/15/2009
Localization: France
Job: Private
Hobbies: Private
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Re: 2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m.- blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
on Thu June 22, 2017, 13:42
Hello,
Indeed Flirden, Alain and Stéphane summarized well, without original photo, no valid data for an analysis! ;-)
Rgds, Didier
Polyèdre57
Analyst investigator
Male Age: 47
Number of messages: 6117
Registered on: 08/16/2012
Localization: Moselle, Metz city
Job: Vaguemaster
Hobbies: Sports fishing, regional history, defense and religious heritage, unconventional music
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Re: 2017: on 06/19 at about 5 p.m.- blurred black cylinderAn unusual ufo phenomenon -Ufos at le honheck "La Bresse" - Vosges (Dep.88)
on Mon May 14, 2018, 12:26
Oh ! It seems that the photo is gone? Flirden, if you could re-post it to us so that we can try to go further in this investigation which is a bit slow....
@+
The Hohneck, at its top, is exactly at the limit between the departments of the Vosges and the departments of the Haut-Rhin.
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The remarks and proposals of the members of the forum [myo1] are all sensible. The discussion ends with the disappearance of the photo; I think "Flirden" realized that his photo didn't show a "blurry black cylindrical UFO" but a bird or an insect.
I know the Hohneck well. There are many flying insects there, including black flies with rather elongated bodies. The blur makes me think that it was probably rather of a close insect than a distant bird whose blur would probably have been less striking on a photo taken during the day under a clear sky, therefore sunny, therefore resulting in an rather short exposure.
This case is among the (too) many cases of what we call "BLURFO", the "blurry UFOs" found on digital photos as nobody had seen anything odd when the photo was taken.
Insect or bird.
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