Possibly no sooner than 1980, ufologist Eric Zurcher received personal information from ufologist Michel Moutet about a case for August 12, 1975, at 09:30 p.m., close to Sanary-sur-Mer, in the department of Var, France, where one J.P.M Brassen, of unspecified age and background, allegedly saw an oval object coming out of the water.
He saw a door, also oval.
There were orange luminous beams, he was dazzled during a quarter of an hour, then heard shushing or whistling sounds on the beach.
He then saw two tripod beings approximately 2 feet 4 inches in height, frail and "shielded", who moved by jumps, and he fled.
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[Ref. ez1:] ERIC ZURCHER:
Eric Zurcher indicates that on August 12, 1975, at 09:30 p.m., close to Sanary in the department 83, J.P.M. Brassen sees an oval object coming out of the water. He sees a door, also oval. There are orange luminous beams, he is dazzled during a quarter of an hour, then he hears "schuinements" [or "chuintements", shushing or whistling sounds] on the beach and then sees two tripod beings approximately 70 centimeters in height, frail and "shielded", who move by jumps. He flees.
Eric Zucher indicates that the source is a personal communication by Mr M. Moutet.
[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:
Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Sanary, France, on August 12, 1975, at 09:30 p.m., J. P. Brassen watched an oval-shaped craft landing on a beach. An oval door is opened, and luminous orange beams of light shoot out at the same time he hears a loud hissing sound. Two short humanoids are seen moving round the craft on the ground. The humanoids reportedly had three legs; very thin and covered with what appeared to be a shell they moved around in small jumps and are only 70cm in height. The witness flees the area.
Albert Rosales indicates that the source is LDLN #195, Denys Breysse Project Becassine.
[Ref. ml1:] MICHAEL LECOMTE:
Michael Lecomte indicates that in Sanary, in France, in 1975, two beings of small size are seen on a beach after an ovoid object came out of the sea. They were each provided of three legs and moved by jumps.
No source is indicated.
Michael Lecomte comments on that the locomotion a legged living being equipped with legs must consume less possible energy, that it is finely adapted to gravity and obeys complex mechanisms, and that "the ergonomics" of a tripod creature would be seriously compromised by the existence of its third leg.
On such examples, the author concludes that the intelligence which manufactures the UFOS and their occupants is out to mislead us but would not do so in a sensible manner.
[Ref. jb1:] JEROME BEAU:
Jerome Beau indicates that "some reported cases" apparently "seem incoherent or absurd (nonsense) to us, from their aspect or the shown behaviors" and that it makes reject "the extraterrestrial hypothesis."
He indicates that there are cases comprising extraterrestrials "whose ship would be badly designed: In Sanary (France), in 1975: 2 beings of small size seen on a beach after an ovoid object came out of the sea are each provided of 3 legs and moved by jumps."
He indicates that according to "Lecomte", the locomotion of a living legged creature must consume the less possible energy, that it is finely adapted to gravity and obeys complex mechanisms, and that "the ergonomics" of a tripod creature would be seriously compromised by the existence of its third leg.
The beach at Sanary-sur-Mer. |
Michel Moutet, cited as first source, was a ufologist who had created the bulletin Revue des Soucoupes Volantes in 1977.
Based on such examples, a number of authors argue that the intelligence which manufactures the UFOs and their occupants, in their opinion, is out to mislead people, but would not do so in a sensible manner. They reason that thus, the extraterrestrials are not really extraterrestrials because they are too absurd, to really be extraterrestrial, so they are not, but sill are created by some unfathomable intelligence capable of creating physical UFOs/occupants by psychic power, this intelligence eventually coming from outside the Earth, from space, or being "Gaia" the inner spirit of the Earth, or the alleged psychic power of the alleged collective unconscious of mankind.
Of course, skeptics authors reason that since so many or "all" UFO occupants are biped, they resemble us too much to reflect the diversity that extraterrestrial life forms must show, hence, such cases, or all cases, are hoaxes or confusions or hallucinations.
Such contradictory views can of course be endlessly discussed and opposed one way or the other.
However, in addition to the speculations about how extraterrestrial beings should be or not be, such reasoning should at least be based not just on apparently "high strangeness" cases, but on solid, investigated, high credibility and high reliability cases, just like it is demanded from those who are proponents of the theory of extraterrestrial visitors for some reports.
In the present case, it appears that all there is to it is some personal communication from one ufologist to another who provides a few lines about it. But there is absolutely no information about the real source's nature. It might have been a bulletproof case with an investigation that left no stone unturned; but it does not look that way and there is absolutely no trace of any investigation or verification. It might just as well have been some letter by one J.P. Brassen who purely and simply invented a story, just as it was with numerous other "CE3 cases", as the reader can verify in my catalogue.
In addition, creating "characteristics" of UFO occupant reports based on selected example is an error, the error of generalization abuse. I do not believe one second, for example that any significant number of CE3 reports are about three-legged creatures. The same error could be to use this case to submit that "UFOs come out of the water, not from the skies." It is quite odd that some abuse of generalization are made while other aren't.
Hence, the discussion on the absurdity of this "alien encounters" appears to be like discussing how many angels can dance on a pin, without caring too much about the existence or lack of any evidence that any angel ever existed. The expression "to put the cart before the horse" also come to my mind.
| Id: | Topic: | Severity: | Date noted: | Raised by: | Noted by: | Description: | Proposal: | Status: |
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| 1 | Data | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Primary source, a personal communication, not available. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 2 | Ufology | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Single witness case. | - | - |
| 3 | Ufology | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | No information on witness profile. The name "J.P.M. Brassen" is highly unusual. Might be a child. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 4 | Ufology | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | No sign of checking or investigation. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 5 | Ufology | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | No information on nature of witness report; could be a simple letter telling a story. (Content not available for evaluation) | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 6 | Ufology | Severe | January 25, 2008 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Meager information, for example no distance of observation, no size for UFO, no color for UFO and entities. | Help needed. | Opened. |
Possible hoax. No credibility.
* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.
| Main Author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Contributors: | None |
| Reviewers: | None |
| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
| Version: | Created/Changed By: | Date: | Change Description: |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | January 25, 2008 | Creation, [ld1], [ar1], [ml1], [jb1]. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | January 25, 2008 | First published. |
