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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

SEPTEMBER 1965, COATEPEC, VERACRUZ, MEXICO, ANTONIO NIETO AND TWO OTHER MEN:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Apparently told in the Excelsior, Mexico City, and in the foreign Press, an event apparently in September 10, 1965, or september 1965, sometimes dated September 18, 1968, involved a cab driver named Antonio Nieto. He was plowing the main avenue of the city of Coatepec, or Jalapa, State of Veracruz, Mexico, at night, pulled over to pick up what he thought was a fare, but it turned out to be a black-clad figure with glowing hands and enormous cat-like eyes that glowed eerily in the taxi's headlights.

The terrified cab driver stepped on the gas and put as much distance as he could between himself and the apparition.

He then ran into a fellow cabdriver who had also been hailed by the nightmarish figure. The men left one cab and set off in the other vehicle in search of a local journalist, who accompanied them to the spot where the creature had last been seen.

They then had a third encounter with the entity. It now held in its glowing hands a crystal wand that emanated a radiance that hurt the eyes. Some versions mention that a bullfighter was also a witness.

A staff writer for the Excelsior noted that in spite of the ufonauts' vaunted ability to cross space, they encountered the same difficulty as Earthlings when it came to hailing a cab.

Other versions, from the ufology litterature, indicate there was a UFO emitting colored lights by slits in its edge, but this probably was a confusion due to Press stories misinterpreted by ufologists.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000798
Date of event: September 10, 1965?
Earliest report of event: October 4, 1965
Delay of report: Day, weeks?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Newspaper.
First certain record by: Ufology book.
First alleged record type: Newspaper.
First certain record type: Ufology book.
This file created on: August 1, 2008
This file last updated on: August 1, 2008
Country of event: Mexico
State/Department: Veracruz
Type of location: City streets from cabs.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1, 1, 3
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Adults.
Witnesses types: Not reported. 2 cab drivers, 1 journalist.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: Normal?
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Black.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Huge eyes reflecting light.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported. Glowing hand.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Is in the streets.
Entities/witness interactions: None or entity mdes gestures at witnesses.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, fled, came back, observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Frightened, curious.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors. Credibility not sufficiently established.
Explanation certainty: Low.

Narratives:

[Ref. yp1:] THE YORKSHIRE POST:

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Flying Saucers over Mexico

Public debate in Mexico on flying saucers has received a new lease of life as thousands of reports pour in to the authorities.

REPORTS of sightings of "Flying saucers" continue to pour in to Mexican newspapers, radio and TV offices, sometimes accompanied by hair-raising stories of "mysterious visitors from outers space."

A group of "beings" ten feet tall, with brilliant red eyes but neither mouths nor noses, were described by three women who claimed to have seen them during a stroll through a southern suburb of Mexico City.

The creatures were said to be wearing shiny grey shirts and "boots like spacemen wear in the comic strips". Interviewed by reporters, the women said that they ran away in panic, and when they eventually packed up courage to return to the scene, the "beings" had vanished.

Glowing objects

Reports of glowing objects in the sky coincided with this "visitation". Sightings of "unidentified flying objects," mostly reported at dusk or before dawn, varied from luminous "saucers" with a red glow to shapes like spinning tops with winking lights.

Some hovered, others darted across the sky "faster than any aircraft," and some performed complicated gyrations.

About a dozen people claimed to have seen two objects zigzagging round the dome and turrets of the capital's Fine Arts Palace at about half past seven one evening. Described as "huge luminous things with intermittent flashing lights," they eventually soared vertically up into the sky until they became "merely tiny dots of light."

Two of five people who lent their names to this report insisted: "We could not have invented this, and we were not drunk. But we just do not know how to explain it. A foreign diplomat was reported to have witnessed this display but to have declined to give his name.

From Jalapa and Villahermosa, near the Gulf of Mexico, and from Tepotzlan, 30 miles from Mexico city, came further reports, including a basketball-sized object emitting blue sparks which appeared to land and take off again, a hovering object which discharged yellow, blue and orange lights from slits in its circumference, and a "black-clad being with eyes gleaming like a cat's, holding a gleaming metal rod."

The last-named visitor vanished suddenly after being spotted in a Jalapa street by a local reporter, two taxi drivers and a bull fighter.

Not to be outdone, Mexico City taxi drivers next claimed a sighting just before dawn - a "saucer" which changed colour as it rotated and flew slowly from west to east across the city. Officials at the city's airport control tower said they had seen only "a very pretty bright star" that morning.

Dramatic display

Next came the dramatic display of "flying saucers" which caused an hour-long traffic jam in one of the capital's main boulevards in the midst of Mexico City's Independence Day festivities.

Passing motorists, seeing crows of pedestrians staring upwards, screeched to a halt and climbed out, ignoring the hooting of drivers behind them. While lines of cars lengthened, excited citizens craned their necks to look at half a dozen luminous orbs, or saucer shapes, hovering silently in the clear evening sky, sliding towards each other, and finally soaring upwards at what people described as "dizzy speeds."

At the same time, over a western suburb, a luminous object with a pulsating internal light hung motionless for half an hour before mysteriously disappearing. One reliable witness described it as "four or five times the size of Venus" (Which was in the sky at the same time) and said that there would could be no confusion with the "conventional" fireworks bursting in the city skies from Independence parties.

For the first time since "saucer sightings" became a commonplace here, officials at Mexico City airport conceded that "something" had been seen.

Senor José Luis Enrique, airport supervisor, said that he had studied two glowing objects through binoculars. One maintained a fixed course, and he told reporters that he thought it could have been one of the many satellites frequently seen in orbit round the world after sunset or before sunrise.

'Mere fantaisies'

But, he added, the second object "appeared to change its course, accelerated in flight, disappeared and reappeared in another direction." He declined to suggest any explanation.

Dr. Ignacio Elias, director of Tacubaya Observatory in the west of the city, dismissed the sightings as "mere fantasies." People, he said, had been seeing the weather surveys balloons sent up regularly from his station.

He did not explain why the balloons, released every day two hours before sunset, have not given rise to "saucer" reports in the past, not how the unlit gas-filled balloons trailing two small instrument boxes, rising steadily and drifting with the wind, could be mistaken for rapidly darting lights.

The observatory, newspapers, radio and TV stations were swamped with anxious telephone calls from the public on this occasion. One newspaper alone reported over a hundred calls.

John Bland

[Ref. gj1:] THE GUARDIAN-JOURNAL:

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Mexican now 'see' flying saucers

By John Bland

REPORTS of sightings of "Flying saucers" continue to pour out into Mexican newspaper, radio and television offices, sometimes accompanied by hair-raising stories of mysterious "visitors from outer space."

A group of "beings" ten feet tall, with brilliant red eyes, but neither mouths nor noses, were described by three women, who claimed to have seen them during a stroll through a southern suburb of Mexico City.

The creatures were said to be wearing shiny grey suits and boots "like spacemen wear in the comic strips."

Reports of glowing objects in the sky coincided with this "visitation."

Varying forms

Sightings of unidentified flying objects, mostly reported at dusk or before dawn, varied from luminous "saucers" with a red glow to shapes like spinning tops with winking lights.

Some hovered, others darted across the sky "faster than any aircraft," and some performed complicated girations.

About a dozen people claimed to have seen two objects zig-zagging round the dome and turrets of the capital's Fine Arts Palace at about half past seven one evening.

Described as "huge, luminous things with intermittent flashing lights," they eventually soared vertically up into the sky until they became "merely tiny dots of light."

'Artificial'

Señor José Luis Enriquez, airport supervisor, said that he had studied two glowing objects through binoculars. One maintained a fixed course, and he told reporters that he thought it could have been one of the many artificial satellites frequently seen in orbit round the world after sunset or before sunrise.

[Ref. jv1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

Jacques Vallée indicates in his catalogue of UFO landings that in Jalapa, Mexico, on September 10, 1965, four persons saw a creature with glowing catlike eyes, dressed in black, walking in a street. The entity was holding a metallic tube, was pursued, and vanished suddenly.

Vallée indicates that the source is "159".

[Ref. jv2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

Jacques Vallée indicates that in Jalapa, Mexico, early in September 1965, a hovering object with luminous slits in its circumference was seen, as well as a being clad in black with eyes gleaming like a cat's eyes and holding a shining metal rod. While it was under observation in a street by a local reporter, two cab drivers and a bullfighter, the entity disappeared.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The ufologist indicates that in September 1965 in Mexico in Jalapa, a hovering object whose circumference was bored of luminous slits was seen and a being dressed in black, with glowing eyes like those of a cat and holding a kind of shining metal rod was seen. The entity disappeared suddenly whereas it was observed in the street by a local journalist, two taxi drivers and a bullfighter.

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates tht the source is Jacques Vallée, "Chroniques des apparitions E.T.", Denoel, 1972, J'Ai Lu collection, p. 104, 105.

[Ref. go2:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates that in September 1965 in Coatepec in Mexico, four independent witnesses saw a strange silhouette dressed with black, on the Campillo avenue.

The being had luminous hands, cats' eyes and carried a crystal or metal wheel, which it handled to produce a beam of light.

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that the source is Janet and Colin Bord in "Modern Mysteries of the World", Guild Publishing London 1989, page 343.

[Ref. sc1:] SCOTT CORRALES:

Scott Corrales indicates that on September 18, 1968, Antonio Nieto, a cab driver was plowing the main avenue of the city of Coatepec. He pulled over to pick up what he thought was a fare, but it turned out to be a black-clad figure with glowing hands and enormous cat-like eyes that glowed eerily in the taxi's lights as it stood on the curb.

The terrified cab driver stepped on the gas and put as much distance as he could between himself and the apparition.

He then ran into a fellow cabdriver who had also been hailed by the nightmarish figure. The men left one cab and set off in the other vehicle in search of a local journalist, who accompanied them to the spot where the creature had last been seen.

They then had a third encounter with the entity. It now held in its glowing hands a crystal wand that emanated a radiance that hurt the eyes.

A staff writer for Mexico City's Excelsior noted that in spite of the ufonauts' vaunted ability to cross space, they encountered the same difficulty as Earthlings when it came to hailing a cab.

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Jalapa, Veracruz, Mexico, on September 10, 1965, at night, a hovering object was seen in a Jalapa street which discharged yellow, blue, and orange lights from slits around its circumference, as well as "a black-clad being with eyes glowing like a cat's, holding a gleaming metal rod." This entity vanished suddenly after being seen by four witnesses, a local reporter, a bullfighter, and two taxi drivers.

Albert Rosales indicates as source "Humcat quoting Reuters Dispatch".

[Ref. ar2:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that near Coatepec, Mexico, on September 18, 1968, at night, a cab driver slowed down to pick up a fare when he noticed that the figure was a black clad being with glowing hands and enormous cat like eyes which reflected the cab headlights. Terrified he drove away and encountered a fellow cabdriver who had also seen the creature. Both men took one of their vehicles and found a local journalist who then joined them in the search for the creature. They saw the being again this time standing on the road and holding on his glowing hands a crystal like wand that gave off a powerful light to painful to behold. The witness decided that they had enough and quickly left the area.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is Scott Corrales, in Samizdat Vol. 2 #2.

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on September 10, 1965, at night, in Jalapa, Mexico, a UFO hovered over a street in the city, discharged yellow, blue, orange lights from slits around its circumference. A black-clad being with glowing eyes held gleaming metal rod. The entity vanished suddenly after being seen by four witnesses, a local reporter, a bullfighter, and two taxi drivers.

The sources are indicated as Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Vallee, Jacques, Passport to Magonia, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Newspaper Clippings; Rosales, Albert, Humanoid Sighting Reports Database.

[Ref. ud2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on September 18, 1968 at night in Coatepec, Mexico, "an unidentifiable object and its occupants were observed at close range."

A cab driver slowed down to pick up a fare when he noticed that the figure was a black clad being with glowing hands and enormous cat like eyes which reflected the cab headlights. Terrified he drove away and encountered a fellow cabdriver who had also seen the creature. Both men took one of their vehicles and found a local journalist who then joined them in the search for the creature. They saw the being again this time standing on the road and holding on his glowing hands a crystal like wand that gave off a powerful light to painful to behold. The witness decided that they had enough and quickly left the area.

The sources are indicated as "Rosales, Albert S. Humanoid Contact Database" and "Rosales, Albert Humanoid Sighting Reports Database".

Points to consider:

This is a high strangeness series of events, more information would have been useful.

Very evidently, there were a number of versions giving the incorrect year of 1968, as British newspapers reported it in 1965 and 1966.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe August 1, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing the primary source and missing full references of the primary source. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe August 1, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No sign of ufological investigation. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial visitors. Credibility not sufficiently established.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross August 1, 2008 Creation, [yp1], [gj1], [jv1], [jv2], [go1], [go2], [sc1], [ar1], [ar2], [ud1], [ud2].
1.0 Patrick Gross August 1, 2008 First published.

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