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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

FEBRUARY 12, 1965, SAN JOSE, SAN LUIS POTOSI, MEXICO, FRANCISCO ESTRADA ACOSTA:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Mexican ufologist Ruben Manrique apparently reported at some time that near San Jose, San Luis Potosi, Mexico, on February 12, 1965, at an unknown time, Francisco Estrada Acosta, aged 19, encountered on a road to San Jose a scaly creature, more than 2 meters tall, that suddenly appeared next to him, and extended a cold hand as if to greet him.

Francisco Estrada Acosta said it had phosphorescent eyes, a large toad-like mouth, hands were like "flippers".

Francisco Estrada Acosta was terrified and run away.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000680
Date of event: February 12, 1965
Earliest report of event: 2007?
Delay of report: 4 decades?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Local ufologist.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Rosales.
First alleged record type: Local ufologist.
First certain record type: Ufology catalogue.
This file created on: June 5, 2008
This file last updated on: July 2, 2008
Country of event: Mexico
State/Department: San Luis Potosi
Type of location: Road.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: None
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: 19
Witnesses types: Not reported. Male.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Reptilian
Entities height: 2.0 meters
Entities outfit type: Not reported or none.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported. Scales.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Phosphorescent.
Entities mouth: Large like a toad's mouth.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Yes.
Entities fingers: Hands like flippers.
Entities fingers number: Not reported or none.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Appeared next to witness on the road.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, fled.
Witness(es) feelings: Frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Possible hoax. No credibility. Insufficient data.
Explanation certainty: Medium.

Narratives:

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that near San Jose, San Luis Potosi, Mexico, on February 12, 1965, at an unknown time, 19-year old Francisco Estrada Acosta encountered on the road to San Jose a tall scaly creature that extended a cold hand as an attempt to possibly greet the witness. Panic stricken Jose fled the area on foot. He further described the being as having phosphorescent eyes, a large toad like mouth that suddenly appeared next to him on the road. Its hands were like "flippers" and it was well over 2 meters in height.

Albert Rosales indicates as source Ruben Manrique.

[Ref. ar2:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Morales, San Luis Potosi, Mexico, on October 1965 in daytime, Francisco Estrada Acosta had gone out on a small game hunting expedition near a local mining area; he followed the local Santiago River and arrived at the San Jose dam. There while bending down collecting rocks for his slingshot he felt the presence of someone standing next to him. Standing up he was startled to see a tall figure with a large oval-shaped head huge reddish phosphorescent eyes and a large toad-like mouth. The strange humanoid extended a "flipper" like hand to Acosta and touched one of Acosta's hands on his palm, the touch felt cold and scaly like that of a reptile or an amphibian. Terrified, Acosta stepped back and ran like a man possessed from the area, looking back he noticed that the creature had membrane wing-like protrusions on its back and was apparently preparing to leave the area also.

Albert Rosales indicates as source Luis Ramirez Reyes, "Contacto Mexico".

Points to consider:

The story [ar1] comes from a ufologist not very famous for being cautious, and where and when this was reported is not said. We only have a brief summary, no investigation report I know of, no other source.

The second version [ar2] is obviously about the same alleged event, but with another date; which does not enhance the credence ot the story.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe June 5, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source not available and insufficiently referenced. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe June 5, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness, no profile information. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe June 5, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No investigation report. Help needed. Opened.
4 Ufology Severe June 5, 2008 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Nature of report unknown - newspaper, letter, rumour... Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible hoax. No credibility. Insufficient data.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross June 5, 2008 Creation, [ar1].
1.0 Patrick Gross June 5, 2008 First published.
1.1 Patrick Gross July 2, 2008 Addition, [ar2]. In the Points to Consider, addition of the paragraphe "The second version...".

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