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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

July 1947, Edinburgh, Scotland, U-K., Andrew Cherry:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

40 years after the occurrence, Scottish ufologist Ron Halliday interviewed Andrew Cherry, sighting witness when he was a 22-year-old factory worker employed by Woods Bottle Works in the Portobello district of Edinburgh, Scotland, in July 1947.

At that time at 05:30 a.m. at dawn, on a beautiful summer's morning, as Mr. Cherry waited at his usual bus stop close to St John's School in Baileyfield Road, glancing skywards, he caught sight of a strange object he estimated to be 12 to 15 feet in length, disc-shaped with what looked like a large glass dome in the style of an observation window. It was hovering about 300 feet above the ground; which is said to be close enough for him to get a clear view of its humanoid occupant.

This "alien" was wearing dark clothes and was sitting or standing beside a control panel of some kind. Cherry also noted the marked metal texture of the spacecraft "like rough diamonds", and the "orange-yellow color" that he thinks may have been simply a reflection of the sun's rays.

The area around the object looked hazy, "possibly owing to the object's energy source". Mr. Cherry could hear a low, smooth hum, which he associated with the flames he could see escaping from the disc.

The disc showed tremendous power as it tilted, spun away and disappeared over the Fife coast in a matter of seconds.

Mr. Cherry described his experience as "ghostly, eerie and awesome" and the event made such a profound impression on him that he has never forgotten what he saw.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-000303
Date of event: July 1947
Earliest report of event: 1998
Delay of report: 4 or 5 decades
Witness reported via: Told ufologist.
First alleged record by: Ufology book.
First certain record by: Ufology website.
First alleged record type: Ufology book.
First certain record type: Ufology website.
This file created on: September 15, 2007
This file last updated on: October 30, 2018
Country of event: U-K
State/Department: Edinburgh
Type of location: Road or street, bus stop.
Lighting conditions: Dawn
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: 22
Witnesses types: Factory worker, man.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid or human
Entities height: Not reported
Entities outfit type: Not reported
Entities outfit color: Not reported
Entities skin color: Not reported
Entities body: Not reported
Entities head: Not reported
Entities eyes: Not reported
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Was in UFO, departure.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Impressed.
Witness(es) interpretation: Uncertain.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors.
Explanation certainty: Low.

Narratives:

[Ref. su1:] "SCOTTISH UFO RESEARCH" WEBSITE:

The web page indicates that Andrew Cherry, a 22 year old factory worker, was employed by Woods Bottle Works in the Portobello district of Edinburgh, Scotland.

At 05:30 on a beautiful summer's morning in July 1947, as Mr. Cherry waited at his usual bus stop close to St John's School in Baileyfield Road.

Glancing skywards, he caught sight of a strange object he estimated to be 12 to 15 feet in length, disc-shaped with what looked like a large glass dome in the style of an observation window. It was hovering about 300 feet above the ground, close enough for Mr. Cherry to get a clear view of its humanoid occupant.

This "alien" was wearing dark clothes and was sitting or standing beside a control panel of some kind. Cherry also noted the marked metal texture of the spacecraft "like rough diamonds", and the "orange-yellow colour" that he thinks may have been simply a reflection of the sun's rays.

The area around the object looked hazy, "possibly owing to the object's energy source". Mr. Cherry could hear a low, smooth hum, which he associated with the flames he could see escaping from the disc.

The disc showed tremendous power as it tilted, spun away and disappeared over the Fife coast in a matter of seconds.

Mr. Cherry described his experience as "ghostly, eerie and awesome" and the event made such a profound impression on him that he has never forgotten what he saw.

The web site indicates that the report was first published in "UFO Scotland", a book by Ron Halliday who personally interviewed Andrew Cherry, and although the interview took place some 40 years after the sighting, said Andrew Cherry "still had a good memory of it though."

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Edinburgh, Scotland, on July 1947, at 05:30 a.m., 22-year old Andrew Cherry waited at his usual bus stop close to St Johns School in Baileyfield Road.

Glancing skywards, he caught sight of a strange object, disc-shaped with what looked like a large glass dome in the style of an observation window. The UFO was hovering about 300 ft above the ground, close enough for Cherry to get a clear view of its humanoid occupant.

The "alien" was wearing dark clothes and was sitting or standing beside a control panel of some kind.

He also noted the marked metal texture of the spacecraft - "like rough diamonds" - and the orange yellow color, which he thinks was simply a reflection of the sun's rays. The area around the object looked hazy, possibly owing to the object's energy source. Cherry could hear a low, smooth hum, which he associated with the flames he could see escaping from the disc.

The object suddenly tilted, spun away and disappeared over the Fife coast in a matter of seconds.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is Ron Halliday, UFO Scotland.

[Ref. ar2:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates that in Portobello, Edinburgh, Scotland, in July 1947 at 05:30A a.m., 22-year-old Andrew Cherry waited at his usual bus stop close to St Johns School in Baileyfield Road, qhen, glancing skywards, he caught sight of a strange object, disc-shaped with what looked like a large glass dome in the style of an observation window.

The UFO was hovering about 300 feet above the ground, close enough for Cherry to get a clear view of its humanoid occupant.

The "alien" was wearing dark clothes and was sitting or standing beside a control panel of some kind. He also noted the marked metal texture of the spacecraft - "like rough diamonds" - and the orange yellow color, which he thinks was simply a reflection of the sun's rays.

The area around the object looked hazy, possibly owing to the object's energy source. Cherry could hear a low, smooth hum, which he associated with the flames he could see escaping from the disc. The object suddenly tilted, spun away and disappeared over the Fife coast in a matter of seconds.

The source is indicated as "Ron Halliday, UFO Scotland ".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

In July 1947 - Edinburgh, Portobello Dist, UK

In July 1947 05:30

Edinburgh, Portobello Dist, UK

Domed disc with transparent dome. Inside was occupant wearing dark clothes, standing beside instrument panel. Low hum sound.

An object was observed. Occupants of the craft were seen. One metallic domed disc, about 20 feet across, was observed by one male 22-year-old witness (Cherry). A low humming sound was heard. One being, wearing a dark suit, was seen.

Hynek rating: CE3

Vallee rating: CE3

[Sources are listed as:]

"Halliday, Ron, UFO Scotland: The Secret History of Scotland's UFO Phenomenon, BW Publishing, Edinburgh, 1998, ISBN:1-873631-83-9".

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

July 1947. 0530hrs.

EDINBURGH (MIDLOTHIAN : SCOTLAND)

Andrew Bryce Cherry (18) was waiting at a bus stop when he saw an object descending from high altitude to about 100m altitude. It was 3-5m diameter, had a sort of marled composition and through a bevelled window, Andrew saw a human looking figure in dark clothes sat at what looked like a control panel. There was another occupant but Andrew could not make out any details. A fan shaped red-brown flame was coming from the rear and the craft was emitting a buzzing sound. Behind this was another, identical, craft. Both then tilted and shot off.

Hanson and Holliday 2010a p52 citing investigations Ron Halliday, Malcolm Robinson and themselves.

Halliday 1997b p50.

Evaluation: Yet another story reported decades later, confused memory of helicopters?

Points to consider:

As there is no possibility from the available data to determine in an objective and sure manner that the sighting report is truthful, all that can be said is that if it is truthful, it does not look to be readily explainable as some confusion of some sort.

The only slightly worrying aspect of the report is the notion that an occupant would be clearly seen at a sighting distance of 90 meters; however, this probably only meant that the witness could clearly see that there was an occupant in the object, not that he could clearly see the characteristics of the occupant. The report itself confirms this, as the occupant apparently could not be detailed.

I verified the possible lighting conditions in Edinburgh in September 1947 before daylight saving around 05:30 a.m., and it appears that the sighting could have been at dawn, or just before dawn, or just after dawn.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe September 15, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source not available. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe September 15, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness. - -
3 Ufology Severe September 15, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Sighting reported at least 4 decades after occurred. - -
4 Ufology Severe September 15, 2007 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No investigation report available. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial visitors.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross September 15, 2007 Creation, [su1], [ar1].
1.0 Patrick Gross September 15, 2007 First published.
1.1 Patrick Gross September 27, 2018 Additions [ud1], [pr1].
1.2 Patrick Gross October 30, 2018 Addition [ar2].

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