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May 27, 1947, Tvrdomestice, Nitra, Slovakia, three young shephers:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

In his 2009 book on "humanoid encounters" for 1947, ufologist Albert Rosales indicates that in "Tyromestica, Czechoslovakia, on June 27, 1947", at an unknown time, three young shepherds reportedly encountered the Holy Virgin Mary on top of a glowing luminous cloud. Soon after, many others watched as the sun apparently turned on its axis and circled around the sky.

Basic information table:

Narratives:

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates that in Tyromestica, Czechoslovakia, on June 27, 1947, at an unknown time, three young shepherds reportedly encountered the Holy Virgin Mary on top of glowing luminous cloud. Soon after, many others watched as the sun apparently turned on its axis and circled around the sky. Albert Rosales says there is no other information.

The source is indicated as "Eduardo Mendoza Palacios, Boletin Contacto # 60".

[Ref. si1:] "SIGLO 30" WEBSITE:

This website decorated with amages of "aliens" tells: "27-6-1947 - En Checoslovaquia en un pueblo llamado Tyromestica, se apareció la virgen a tres pastorcillos. Días después se produjo la danza del sol, lo cual fue catalogado como un milagro.

I.e.:

"In Czechoslovakia in a village called Tyromestica, the virgin appeared to three shepherd boys. Days after the sun dance occurred, which was cataloged as a miracle."

Points to consider:

It was not in "Tyromestica" but "Tvrdomestice". It was not in June 27, 1947, but on May 27, 1947. "Czechoslovakia" is now parted in Czech Republic and Slovakia, and this occurred in Slovakia.

The events were that the three shepperds claimed they had seen the "Blessed Virgin" on May 27, 1947, and that every 27th of the next months, people would gather at the location in hope of seeing something. So on June 27, 1947, about 80.000 people had gathered, and that is the date that it was claimed that the sun "daced" - an imitation of Fatima of course.

Slovakia's church hierarchy reacted in an article published on July 27, 1947, written on the eve of the next anticipated influx of pilgrims to Tvrdomestice. Editor Justin Stibrany said that that there was no proof of the veracity of the apparitions. He noted that the children only recognized the apparition as "Mary" after chey had returned home and spoke with others.

Stibrany said that "miracles" alleged to have occurred in conjunction with the apparitions either did not have the character of miracles, or were untrue, or were "unworthy of Mary", or, in the case of the alleged solar phenomena, not confirmed by consistent and uniform testimonies.

Stibrany regretted that thousands of Slovaks missed obligatory Sunday mass to visit the apparition site on Sundays, and that local people made good profits selling visitors food, drinks, and pious paraphernalia such as signed photographs of the children.

(See: "After Hitler, Before Stalin: Catholics, Communists, and Democrats in Slovakia, 1945-1948", book by James Ramon Felak, University of Pittsburgh Press, USA, page 151, 2009.)

Ufologists have very different views about "Marian apparitions". "Skeptics" use them in order to show that inventions alwaya existed, they were inspired by religion in the past and are now inspired by "science-fiction". Many "fringe" ufologist are ambiguous about "Marian apparitions": some introduce them as if the "Virgin" should be considered an alien or UFO occupant - generally its is not clearly stated, cases are only cited among cases that are much more cases of UFO occupants. some come forward with a theory saying that the "Virgin" is some sort of illusion created by aliens to produce some effect on mankind - which effect is generally not clarified. Some consider that anything strange, from aliens to ghosts to weird animals to "blessed Virgin" to UFOs are one an only one phenomenon - about which they say nothing more than that it is "paranormal".

I use a case-by-case approach.

In this case, one may argue that as it was only after they spoke with others that the children considered they saw "Mary", they may have seen an alien entity. It is not impossible, but it is far from being proven, as there is - as often - no description available to clarify what they saw before an interpretation was put on it. The bottomline of this case is that I do not know whether they really saw soenthing, I do not know what they saw if they saw something at all, so this is a case with simply not enough information,

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Evaluation:

Totally insufficient information, unknown credibility.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

• [em1] ? Eduardo Mendoza Palacios in Boletin Contacto, #60.
• [ar1] * "Humanoid Encounters - International Catalogue - 1947", book by Albert Rosales, Digital Mirage publishers, page 33, 2009.
• [si1] * "Las Extrañas Apariciones de soles y Vírgenes", page web du site Siglo 30, Espagne, 9 octobre 2012, à http://www.siglo30.com/enigmas/index.php/apariciones/552-las-extranas-apariciones-de-soles-y-virgenes

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