Russian ufologist Mikhail Gershteyn reportedly indicated that in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, on December 24, 1912, in the evening, the mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field.
He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms.
The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions, but he refused to answer.
Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.
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[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:
Albert Rosales indicates that in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, on December 24, 1912, in the evening, The mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field. He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms. The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions but he refused to answer. Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.
Albert Rosales indicates that the source is "Mikhail Gershteyn".
[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:
The website indicates that on 24 December 1912 at "20:00" in Proskurov, Russia, "The mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field. He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms. The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions but he refused to answer. Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction."
The source indication is a broken link.
[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:
The author indicates that on December 24, 1912 to the evening, in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, there was a possible CE4.
The mayor of Proskurov went back walking to his village when his attention was caught to "a vague enlightened machine" posed in a field. He approached the object and distinguished two men near the machine.
He asked them who they are and where they come from but he did not receive an answer. These "aeronauts" then caught the mayor and dragged hin inside the apparatus in spite of his protests.
Once in the air they questioned him but he refused to answer.
Little later the air vessel landed and its occupants released the witness close to Vat, a city 60 kilometers from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.
Jean Sider indicates that his source is Rosales quoting Michail Gershteyn.
The first scheduled regular international air-mail service in the world was inaugurated between Vienna and Kiev, via Krakow, Lvov and Proskurov on March 11, 1918. The service was principaly for military mails and was operated with Hansa-Brandenburg C1 biplanes, continuing until November 1918.
This means that it is not entirely impossible that a plane operated by military pilots landed in Proskurov in December 1912.
In the report, the supposed UFO is absolutely not described. This is odd, and even suspicious.
The occupants are said to be two men in military uniform, and they communicate with the witness. They surely look more like pilots than alien creatures.
Maybe this was an encounter with airmail pilots and their planes, in a report distorted over time or distorted when it went from source to source.
| Id: | Topic: | Severity: | Date noted: | Raised by: | Noted by: | Description: | Proposal: | Status: |
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| 1 | Data | Severe | February 25, 2013 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Primary source not available and not properly referenced. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 2 | UFology | Severe | February 25, 2013 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Single witness case. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 3 | UFology | Severe | February 25, 2013 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Nature and origin of story not known: letter, newspaper, rumour...? | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 4 | UFology | Severe | February 25, 2013 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | No description of the alleged UFO. | Help needed. | Opened. |
| 5 | UFology | Severe | February 25, 2013 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | No sign of investigation. | Help needed. | Opened. |
Possible confusion, air mail plane and pilots.
* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.
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