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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

December 24, 1912, Proskurov, Podolsky, Russia, the mayor of the village:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Russian ufologist Mikhail Gershteyn reportedly indicated that in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, on December 24, 1912, in the evening, the mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field.

He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms.

The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions, but he refused to answer.

Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001134
Date of event: December 24, 1912
Earliest report of event: 2004?
Delay of report: 9 decades?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Russian ufologist Mikhail Gershteyn.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Rosales.
First alleged record type: Ufologist.
First certain record type: Ufology catalogue.
This file created on: February 25, 2013
This file last updated on: February 25, 2013
Country of event: Russia
State/Department: Podolsky
Type of location: On a field.
Lighting conditions: Not reported. Evening.
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Man. The Mayor of the village.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 2
Type of entities: Human
Entities height: Not reported
Entities outfit type: Miitary uniform.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: Yes, speak witness language.
Entities actions: Are near UFO, do not answer witness question, take him on board by force, ask him questions, release him 60 km away, departure.
Entities/witness interactions: Do not answer witness question, take him on board by force, ask him questions, release him 60 km away.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, asked question, approached, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Possible confusion, air mail plane and pilots.
Explanation certainty: Low.

Narratives:

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates that in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, on December 24, 1912, in the evening, The mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field. He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms. The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions but he refused to answer. Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is "Mikhail Gershteyn".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 24 December 1912 at "20:00" in Proskurov, Russia, "The mayor of the village of Vyhilevka was walking towards Proskurov when he saw a dimly lit "machine" on a nearby field. He came closer and saw two men standing next to it, who seemed to be wearing military uniforms. The mayor asked the men who they were and where they were from but received no reply. The men then chased the witness and caught him dragging him inside the "machine", despite his protests. In the air the "pilots" asked the mayor numerous questions but he refused to answer. Soon the object landed and he was released near the city of Bar 60 km from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction."

The source indication is a broken link.

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author indicates that on December 24, 1912 to the evening, in Proskurov, Podolsky region, Russia, there was a possible CE4.

The mayor of Proskurov went back walking to his village when his attention was caught to "a vague enlightened machine" posed in a field. He approached the object and distinguished two men near the machine.

He asked them who they are and where they come from but he did not receive an answer. These "aeronauts" then caught the mayor and dragged hin inside the apparatus in spite of his protests.

Once in the air they questioned him but he refused to answer.

Little later the air vessel landed and its occupants released the witness close to Vat, a city 60 kilometers from Vyhilevka. The "machine" then disappeared in an unknown direction.

Jean Sider indicates that his source is Rosales quoting Michail Gershteyn.

Points to consider:

The first scheduled regular international air-mail service in the world was inaugurated between Vienna and Kiev, via Krakow, Lvov and Proskurov on March 11, 1918. The service was principaly for military mails and was operated with Hansa-Brandenburg C1 biplanes, continuing until November 1918.

This means that it is not entirely impossible that a plane operated by military pilots landed in Proskurov in December 1912.

In the report, the supposed UFO is absolutely not described. This is odd, and even suspicious.

The occupants are said to be two men in military uniform, and they communicate with the witness. They surely look more like pilots than alien creatures.

Maybe this was an encounter with airmail pilots and their planes, in a report distorted over time or distorted when it went from source to source.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe February 25, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source not available and not properly referenced. Help needed. Opened.
2 UFology Severe February 25, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness case. Help needed. Opened.
3 UFology Severe February 25, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Nature and origin of story not known: letter, newspaper, rumour...? Help needed. Opened.
4 UFology Severe February 25, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No description of the alleged UFO. Help needed. Opened.
5 UFology Severe February 25, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No sign of investigation. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible confusion, air mail plane and pilots.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross February 25, 2013 Creation, [ar1], [ud1], [js1].
1.0 Patrick Gross February 25, 2013 First published.

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