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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

MAY 19, 1909, MAINDEE, MONMOUTHSHIRE, U-K., SOMEONE:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Apparently, the South Wales Daily News newspaper for May 21, 1909, reported that on May 19, 1909, in Maindee, Newport, U-K., at about 8 a.m., W. Beighton's little girl pointed out a "big fowl" which would "flap" at times. It came from the Bristol channel, standing still on occasion, and moved away at about 8.30 a.m.

Two other people reportedly saw the object. One person using a telescope said the craft was 12 to 15 yards long and was carrying three men.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001476
Date of event: May 19, 1909
Earliest report of event: May 21, 1909
Delay of report: 2 days
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Newspaper
First certain record by: Ufology article Carl Grove.
First alleged record type: Newspaper.
First certain record type: Ufology article.
This file created on: August 22, 2013
This file last updated on: August 22, 2013
Country of event: R-U.
State/Department: Monmouthshire
Type of location: Not reported
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Not reported
UFO departure observed: Not reported
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Adult or aged.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Man.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: Not reported
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported. Me.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Were in UFO.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Airship of hoax.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. cg1:] CARL GROVE:

32. May 19. Maindee, Newport About 8.00 a.m., W. Beighton's little girl pointed out a "big fowl" which would "flap" at times. It came from the Bristol channel, standing still on occasion, and moving away about 8.30 a.m. Two others saw the object; one, using a telescope, said the craft was 12 to 15 yards long and was carrying three men. (South Wales Daily News, May 21.)

[Ref. mb1:] MICHEL BOUGARD:

This ufologist indicates that on May 19, 1909, near Cardiff, in Maindee, a little girl saw what she called "a big chicken sometimes flapping its wings"; which came from the coast and remained motionless for half an hour.

Two other witnesses also saw an object in the sky and one of them looked through a telescope and noticed three men on board.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

1909, May 19
GREAT-BRITAIN, Maindee (Cardiff)
In the morning, at about 08:00, a young girl saw what she called a "big chicken who sometimes flapped its wings." This strange bird came from the coast and remained motionless for half an hour. Two other witnesses also saw an object in the sky and one of them looking through a telescope observed the presence of three men on board. (Michel BOUGARD: "La chronique des OVNI" - Delarge 1977, p. 209)

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates that in Maindee, Wales, on May 19, 1909, at about 08:00 a.m., "W Breighton’s little girl pointed out a 'big fowl' which would 'flap' at times. It came from the Bristol Channel, standing still on occasion, and moving away about 0830A. Two others saw the object, one, using a telescope, said that the craft was 12 to 15 yards long & was carrying 3 men."

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is "Carl Grove, FSR Vol. 17 # 1"

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

Jean Sider indicates that on 19 May 1909 at 08:00 Maindee, Newport, Wales, a little girl, W. Beighton, said he saw "a huge poultry" sometimes flapping wings. The thing that seemed to come from Bristol Channel sometimes remained motionless in the air, then spun in the distance at about half past eight. Two other witnesses also saw the object. One of them had even used a telescope that allowed him to estimate its dimensions: between twelve and fifteen yards long and he distinguished three men on board.

Jean Sider indicates that the source is "FSR, vol. 17, #1, 1971, p. 18, based on the South Wales Daily News, May 21, 1909".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 19 May 1909 at 08:00 in Maindee, UK, "An object was observed. Occupants of the craft were seen. One object, about 40 feet across, was observed by several witnesses at a house for 30 minutes (Beighton)."

The sources are indicated as "Webb, David, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports", "FSR, FSR (formerly Flying Saucer Review) FSR, London, 1966", "Rogerson, Peter, World-Wide Catalog of Type 1 Reports", "Newspaper Clippings".

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

May 19 1909 - 0800 hrs

MAINDEE near NEWPORT (MONMOUTHSHIRE : WALES)

Mr Beighton’s little girl pointed out an object resembling a "big fowl" in the sky. It flapped at times, came from the Bristol Channel and hovered from time to time. Two other people saw the contraption, one -through a telescope- saw it was a craft 12m long carrying three men.

Carl Grove in FSR op cit citing South Wales Daily News 21 May 1909)

Points to consider:

Ernest T. Willows had built his first airship "Willows 1" in 1905 as he was only 19 years old. Willows 1 had its first proper flight on September 5, 1905. His "Willows II" was built in 1909 at East Moors, Cardiff, Wales, and officially it was first flown on November 26, 1909. So there was an airship builder at work in Wales in 1909, but no record exist that he flew on May 19, 1909, above Maindee.

What the little girl - how young was she, how believable is a little girl talking about some big poultry in the sky? - saw remains uncertain, if she did see something. What the man with the telescope saw is also uncertain, but there is no reason to claim he saw an alien spaceship nor anything paranormal. Maybe it was a test flight of some locally built airship, maybe it was just a hoax.

To make things even worse, the man with the telescope is probably the person said to be a witness in the Maesteg sighting report 3 days later. If so this file should not even be seaparated from that other one...

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe August 22, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source not available. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe August 22, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Only a few lines of Press report without any detail. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Airship of hoax.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross August 22, 2013 Creation, [cg1], [mb1], [go1], [ar1], [js1], [ud1], [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross August 22, 2013 First published.

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