ALSACAT-2014-06-25-WILLGOTTHEIM-1
A man reported his observation to GEIPAN - the French official study and information group on unidentified aerospace phenomena, on June 25, 2014, the very day of his observation, giving his story, sketches, and answering the questions in the GEIPAN questionnaire.
In Willgottheim, in the Bas-Rhin, on June 25, 2014, between 9:45 p.m. and 10:00 p.m., this man was smoking a cigarette at the window, when he saw two objects moving in the sky. At first he thought they were planes, but quickly noticed that the trail left by the two objects did not dissipate but "really accompanied" each object. He said the trail was "a bit cigar-shaped, very elongated" and seemed to be "about 20 to 30 times" the size of the objects.
Looking further, he noticed that the objects were "fairly luminescent" and of a slightly orange color to the extent that it was possible for him "to discern a triangular shape" of these objects. He also evoked the color as "orange-white rather luminescent for the object, and a paler orange-white for the trail left by the object."
Then, mechanically looking at the surrounding sky, he found out that there were, in another direction, four to six objects moving on the horizon line instead of going up. These objects were following each other or crossing each other, the crossing seemed to show that they were quite close to one another. He gave the luminosity of the objects as "equal or even a little superior to that of a star," but also their size as of 3 to 5 mm on a ruler that one would hold at arm's length.
He was surprised because he had never seen so much air traffic in such a short time - 15 minutes in all - He did not have a camera to take pictures and felt that these things, though brilliant, were too far anyway to get interesting photos.
There was no sound coming from the objects, he did not hear any airplane sounds.
The first objects; which rose on a slight slope, went from the west to the north, the second group of objects flew parallel to the horizon, and went from west to south.
The GEIPAN noted that orange luminescent objects crossing the sky "following the same trajectories in a few minutes, a weekend night", makes them strongly think of Chinese lanterns, probably launched nearby at the end of a private party. The observed drag, they say, could be the smoke released by the burner.
The GEIPAN says that there was, according to Meteociel, a very weak wind from North to Northeast, only one of the two groups of objects moved along this wind. The GEIPAN indicates however that the other displacement could be explained by a slightly different wind regime in altitude, a possible but hypothetical occurrence when the winds are very slow. They note that because of these complex movements, there remains some doubt about the nature of the phenomenon.
Date: | June 25, 2014 |
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Time: | 09:52 p.m. |
Duration: | 15 minutes |
First known report date: | June 25, 2014 |
Reporting delay: | Minutes, hours. |
Department: | Bas-Rhin |
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City: | Willgottheim |
Place: | From window at home, UFO in the sky. |
Latitude: | 48.671 |
Longitude: | 7.509 |
Uncertainty radius: | 600 m |
Number of alleged witnesses: | 1 |
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Number of known witnesses: | 1 |
Number of named witnesses: | 1 |
Witness(es) ages: | 56 |
Witness(es) types: | Resident. |
Reporting channel: | Official report with GEIPAN questionnaire. |
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Type of location: | From window at home, UFO in the sky. |
Visibility conditions: | Night |
UFO observed: | Yes |
UFO arrival observed: | No |
UFO departure observed: | Yes |
Entities: | No |
Photographs: | No. |
Sketch(s) by witness(es): | Yes. |
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | Yes. |
Witness(es) feelings: | Puzzled, fascinated. |
Witnesses interpretation: | Not planes, maybe extraterrestrial. |
Hynek: | NL |
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ALSACAT: | Possible Chinese lanterns. |
[Ref. gei1:] GROUPE D'ETUDES ET D'INFORMATIONS SUR LES PHENOMENES AEROSPATIAUX NON IDENTIFIES (G.E.I.P.A.N.):
WILLGOTTHEIM (67) 06/25/2014 | |
Observed on: | 05/25/2014 |
Region: | Alsace |
Department: | Rhin (Bas) |
Class: | C |
Summary: | WILLGOTTHEIM (67) 06/25/2014. Observation of the complex displacement of several slightly orange luminescent objects in the night sky: lack of information. |
Description: |
The observation of orange luminescent objects crossing the sky along the same trajectories in a few minutes, a weekend night, is clearly reminiscent of Chinese lanterns, probably launched nearby at the end of a private party. The observed drag may be the smoke released by the burner. Meteociel indicates a very weak wind from N to NE: Weather. The observation relates two types of displacement, only one is compatible with this wind of NE. The other displacement could be explained by a wind regime a little different in altitude, a possible schema by very low wind, but hypothetical. Although this case has many features of a Chinese lantern observation, these complex movements leave a doubt about the nature of the phenomenon. GEIPAN classifies this case "C" for lack of information and overlap. |
Report: | None. |
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Witness | |
Date of the observation | 06/25/2014 |
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Age | |
Profession | Employees, Workers |
Sex | Male |
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Hour of the observation | Numbered: 8 p.m. - 10 p.m. |
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Nature of the observation | Object |
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Color | White (light) |
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Noise | Silent |
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Your observationWe ask you to provide as much information as possible about your observation. The most important thing is to leave nothing out: it is often the details that make it possible to solve the investigations. Do not hesitate to give the maximum of information, even if your memories are incomplete or that certain elements seem inimportant to you. If you are not sure about this or that detail, tell us of your doubts, but, again, do not omit anything. We need to be able to visualize everything you've seen, like re-doing the movie of your observation. Use the end of this page to tell the story of your observation and continue on free paper as much as you want: Your free account of the observation: . . . Smoking a cigarette at the window, I was attracted by two objects moving in the sky between 09:45 p.m. and 10 p.m. Wednesday 06/25/2014. Thinking at first that they were planes, I quickly noticed that the two objects did not leave a dissipating trail but really "accompanying each object. Then, looking further, I noticed that the objects were quite luminescent and of slightly orange color. So much so that it was possible for me to discern a triangular form of these. Then, I automatically looked at the sky as a whole to then observe on another "cardinal" plan this time four to six objects moving on the horizon. These objects followed or crossed (the crossing of the latter seemed to me very close from one object to another. So in the presence of: first two objects ascending + four to six moving horizontally, I was surprised because in case of air traffic, it had not been given me to observe as much in this period of time (15 minutes). Unfortunately I did not have a camera to film it, and anyway the viewing distance would not have allowed me to make accurate pictures, although the brightness would have allowed me to do so. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 3 |
Conditions of observation of the phenomenonPlease provide all the requested information. What were your occupations just before your observation? I was smoking a cigarette at the window Specific address of the place of observation (street, city ...): Willgottheim. Bas-Rhin Where exactly were you? (Please indicate if you were in a building and on which floor, if you were looking through a window, and how fast you were driving if you were in a vehicle.) Two-storey building residing at the last and with an unobstructed view because no direct opposite overlooking Date of the observation: ... 25 ... / 06 ...... / ... 2014 ......... Precise start time (in local time): 09:45 p.m. Duration of the observation or end time (in hours, minutes, seconds): 15 minutes Did other witnesses see the same phenomenon as you? If yes how much? If so, please ask them to contact us using the contact details on the last page of this document. How do you relate to these people (parents, friends, colleagues, neighbors)? The observation was made as follows: continuous / (delete or delete the word "useless") If the observation was done intermittently, specify why it was interrupted and resumed: CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 4 |
How did this observation end? Progressive dissipation Have you seen the phenomenon directly from your eyes? YES / (delete or delete the word "useless") Has the phenomenon been observed through an instrument (eyeglasses or sunglasses, binoculars, camera, camera, telescope ...)? If yes, please specify the model: NO Weather conditions (clear skies, clouds, wind, storm, mist, fog, rain, snow, changing conditions during observation): Clear sky and very good brightness. Astronomical conditions (remember the position of the Moon, the Sun, the presence or not of stars or planets, etc.): No stars still visible at this time of observation Equipment on or active during the observation (lights, radio, TV, lights ...): Lights of my main room but not disturbing the objects observed in the sky Noise during observation (TV or radio on, passing vehicles, airplane engine, thunder ...): No noises such as those that can be produced by an airliner or a fighter plane regarding objects and no disturbance noises from vehicles (car or motorcycle) CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 5 |
Description of the phenomenonIn your descriptions, do not hesitate to make comparisons with known objects. Number of phenomena (single, multiple or single and then divides ...): Two objects moving uphill and four to six objects moving parallel to the skyline. Shape: Triangular for the object and a somewhat cigar-shaped trail very elongated which seemed to me more or less 20 to 30 times that of the object. Color: White orange rather luminescent for the object, and paler orange-white for the trail left by the object. Brightness (in comparison with known stars like Venus and the Moon, or the lighting of a lamppost, car lights, house lights, etc.): equal or even a little higher than that of a star, especially compared to the brightness of the sky at this time. Presence of a drag or a halo? If so, what color? White / orange trail not dissipated but seeming to stick to the back of the object, similar to the trail of a rocket. Apparent size (express the dimensions of the phenomenon in relation to a familiar object and / or in millimeters counted on a graduated scale carried at arm's length): 3 to 5 mm according to your rule criteria carried at arm's length Noise coming from the phenomenon (hissing, buzzing, detonation, comparison with a known noise ...): No noises CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 6 |
Distance between you and the UAP (the observed phenomenon), estimated roughly (specify if the object passed in front of or behind an element of the landscape): more or less 1 Km for objects going up and more or less 2 to 3 Km for objects moving on a horizon. Direction of appearance of UAP (north, south, southwest, etc., or specify a local visual or geographic landmark, direction of a place, etc.): West to North for rising objects and South West and vice versa for objects following or intersecting on the horizon UAP disappearance direction (north, south, southwest, etc., or specify a local visual or geographic landmark, direction of a location, etc.): Same comments as above Height of appearance of the UAP with respect to the horizon (the horizon = 0 °, the zenith = 90 °): 45 to 60 ° for rising objects and 0 for those of the horizon plane UAP disappearance height from horizon: Same coordinates as mentioned above Trajectory of the phenomenon (straight line, rising, descending, with or without change of direction, curve, etc.): objects1: rising direction on a slight slope objects2: trajectory in a straight line horizontally Portion of the sky covered by the PAN during the observation (eg a quarter of the sky or 30 ° to 40 ° with respect to the horizon, etc.): Hard to estimate CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 7 |
No effect noted but I was staring at the sky CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 8 |
Reconstitution of your observationIn order for us to reconstruct the "film" of your observation, we need to have as much information as possible. Concretely this implies that we understand everything, from the beginning to the end of your observation, and that we know the direction of movement of the phenomenon as well as its altitude. This step is crucial. We offer three complementary methods:
How to "dress" a photo or a map with your comments? If you are used to the use of drawing or image editing software (Photoshop, GIMP, Illustrator, ...), we advise you to use these tools, then send us a file in jpg, png or pdf format . If you can not access this type of material, print a map of the place and / or a photo, draw over it and attach it to the paper file; or scan or photograph the result and send it to us in jpg, png or pdf format. REQUESTS HAVE TO BE SENT IN WRITING TO GEIPAN - ADDRESS ON LAST PAGE |
Use this page to draw your observation. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 10 |
- Observations of 25/06/2014 between 9:45 pm and 10 pm 1st observation pretty brilliant part Rising progression of objects Approximations of the height trail that can be likened to that left by an airplane except that it actually followed the object without a trace of dissipation. 2nd observation at ~ 5 min intervals for my own observation because not in the same field of view as the observation "1" 4 to 6 objects some of which were relatively close. Horizontal progression of objects, following or crossing each other, visible on the horizon line - estimate the drag ~ 20 to 30 times the size of the object itself. - No noise, dissipation of objects after a few minutes. these objects seemed to move quite fast but with constant speed - situation: seen from my window by relatively clear sky, correct brightness. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 11 |
Sketch of your observation(2) In order to define the situation in axis: N / S E / W I quickly fashioned (cap + magnet needle) a compass. Thus, the observation point 1 is in red, below me from my window the point of view of objects moving in a horizontal plane and parallel to the horizon line is indicated below me from my window |
And now?Describe the emotions you felt during and after the observation: I was very surprised and fascinated by this observation which pushed me to contact you because I seem out of things observed so far and I'm 56 years old !! What did you do after your observation? Have you spoken to it? How did your interlocutors react? Have you done any research to understand what you saw? I wrote to a Friend and searched the Web for your contact information because I want to have returns if this phenomenon could be observed by other people in my area or elsewhere. What interpretation do you give to what you have observed? Have you thought of a known phenomenon? What are the elements that justify your interpretation? If you do not know, did you give up understanding? If so, when and why? Nothing known to me or what my interest in science has taught me. Before your observation, what interest do you have in strange aerospace phenomena? Did you have a clear opinion on the subject? Which? What were you merging with? A lot of interest because his father is a researcher at the CNRS. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 13 |
Did this observation change your view of unidentified aerospace phenomena? If yes, explain what you think now: This observation only reinforces my position on the fact that we must not neglect the possibility of presence of life outside our system Do you think that science will give an explanation to your observation? If one sticks to the words of some scientists "a little open" yes ... Otherwise we enter a rationalization a little annoying by some too Cartesian scientists. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 14 |
SummaryIf you have already testified about this NAP, please tell us which authority, organization or person by removing or blocking useless entries in the list below, and completing the requested information (several possible contacts): Gendarmerie (mention brigade and date): .... Please indicate in the list below the documents you have attached or filled. (tick or delete the words that are not applicable)
CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 15 |
You still have to fill the authorization of publication below, which will enable us to make appear your anonymous testimony on our Internet site. Authorization to publish your information (In case of refusal, delete or delete one or both of the following formulas.) - I authorize the GEIPAN to publish this testimony on its own website, after deleting the information used to identify the witnesses (name, address ...). - I authorize the GEIPAN to publish in the media (press, television, Internet) parts of this testimony (text, photos possibly retouched, drawings, diagrams, videos). I, the undersigned: [] ....., certify the sincerity of the information provided above. Done at Willgottheim (Bas-Rhin) ..... the 25/06/2014 ..... Signature [] This questionnaire is to return: - By e-mail with all digitized items at geipan@cnes.fr or - By mail to the following postal address, after making a copy that you will keep: GEIPAN We thank you foe having taken the time to testinfy. CNES/GEIPAN Standard questionnaire GEIPAN V3.5-june-2013 page: 16 |
GEIPAN's remarks about the explanation seem to me to make sense.
The direction of the wind given by the weather services is obviously globally correct, but locally, there may be variations, depending on the altitude, obstacles, and as stated by the GEIPAM, this is particularly true when the wind is globally slow.
A private party may have been the occasion of a letting go of lanterns; but it should also be noted that the feast of St. John for 2014 had its date set to the day before, June 24, 2014. But the villages sometimes celebrate one or two days before or after the "official" date, so that the party does not take place the same evening in all the surrounding villages.
Regarding the trails left by the objects, one could have the impression that the lanterns do not leave trail, if one refers to other such cases. But most of these other cases occur at night, or by dark night, and the trails may this not be visible. Here we are at the beginning of the summer (hence the St. John party) and it is only 09:45 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.; the sky is not totally dark at this time.
However, I just did not find, so far, proven cases of Chinese lanterns with trails. For example, it was impossible to me, amidst dozens of pictures of Chinese lanterns taken in broad daylight, to find a single image showing a trail. The only exception that I know of is that of a testimony that was sent to me and that reported smoke, but only at the end of life of the lantern. And this smoke was dark.
One possible explanation for trails here would be that these would not be the usual ready-made Chinese lanterns sold commercially, but "home made" Chinese lanterns with a burner that would let a trail of whitish smoke.
The first group went from west to north, the second went from west to south. Any village on the west side may have been the place of a lanterns lauch: Landersheim, Rangen, Zeinheim, Hohengoeft, Knoersheim, Westhouse, Zehnacker, Wasselone, Kuttolsheim, Nordheim, Wintzenheim.
In the end, we do not have proven Chinese lanterns here, but possible Chinese lanterns, the only "objection", not irreducible, being these trails.
Since 2005, Chiese lanterns constitute the bulk of the "testimonies" of UFOs found on websites devoted to the subject of UFOs and essentially publishing such "web report"; generally the only treatment is the publication, without any information on a possible cause, without any investigation or comment.
In Alsace, such releases are especially popular now since fireworks and firecrackers, long tolerated, are now prohibited for use unless special exemptions; Alsatians therefore largely adopted the lanterns.
As these lanterns are usually released at private or public parties, they are most often seen on Saturday nights, often at wedding dates or official festivities such as the National Day or New Year's Eve, usually between 10 p.m. and midnight. They are then usually released in clusters. But sometimes the purchaser performs a "test flight" a few days before, sometimes with a single lantern.
Above: a Chinese lantern.
Possible Chinese lanterns.
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Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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Contributors: | None |
Reviewers: | None |
Editor: | Patrick Gross |
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0.1 | Patrick Gross | February 27, 2018 | Creation, [gei1]. |
1.0 | Patrick Gross | February 27, 2018 | First published. |