ACUFO-1945-00-00-WONSAN-1
In the years 1990 - 2000, the American Joseph Trainor wrote a ufological news bulletin on the Web, UFO Roundup; in which he sometimes mentioned old cases.
In his December 30, 1999, bulletin, he claimed that in 1945, three Japanese “Zeros” engaged “two daylight discs in a dogfight over Wonsan, North Korea. One Zero is shot down, and the UFOs flee into space.”
Trainor gave no source for this brief account.
| Date: | 1945 |
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| Time: | Day. |
| Duration: | ? |
| First known report date: | 1999 |
| Reporting delay: | 5 decades. |
| Country: | North Korea |
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| State/Department: | Kangwon |
| City or place: | Wonsan |
| Number of alleged witnesses: | 3 |
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| Number of known witnesses: | ? |
| Number of named witnesses: | 0 |
| Reporting channel: | Joseph Trainor's UFO roundup. |
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| Visibility conditions: | Day. |
| UFO observed: | Yes. |
| UFO arrival observed: | ? |
| UFO departure observed: | Yes. |
| UFO action: | Dogfight, shoots down one of the planes, flees. |
| Witnesses action: | Dogfight. |
| Photographs: | No. |
| Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
| Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
| Witnesses interpretation: | ? |
| Sensors: |
[X] Visual: 3.
[ ] Airborne radar: N/A [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [X] Damages: 1 of 3 planes destroyed. |
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| Hynek: | DD |
| Armed / unarmed: | Armed, 2 Type 99 20 mm canons and 2 Type 97 7,62 mm machine guns. |
| Reliability 1-3: | 1 |
| Strangeness 1-3: | 3 |
| ACUFO: | No credibility. |
[Ref. jtr1:] JOSEPH TRAINOR - "UFO ROUNDUP":
1945 - Three Japanese Zeroes engage two daylight discs in a dogfight over Wonsan, North Korea. One Zero is shot down, and the UFOs flee into space.
[Ref. gvo1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:
NORTH KOREA
Three Japanese ZERO planes (vog: Japanese fighters and kamikaze planes) engage in broad daylight combat with two air discs above Wonsan in North Korea. One of the ZERO planes is shot down while the disks disappear into space. (A CENTURY OF UFO - UFO Roundup Dec. 1999, ed. Joseph Trainor) (vog note: no plane crash or loss on this date and in this place in the database http://www.planecrashinfo.com /database.htm Copyright 1997-2004 Richard Kebabjian)
[Ref. tai1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:
Date: 1945
Location: Wonsan, North Korea,
Time:
Summary: Three Japanese Zeroes engage two daylight discs in a dogfight. One Zero is shot down, and the UFOs flee into space.
Source:
[Ref. ute1:] A "UFO TIMELINE" ON THE WEB:
1945
- Three Japanese Zeroes engage two daylight discs in a dogfight over Wonsan, North Korea. One Zero is shot down, and the UFOs flee into space
The Mitsubishi A6M “Zero” (photo below) (Allied codename “Zeke”) was a Japanese light carrier-based fighter-bomber used by the Imperial Japanese Navy from 1940 to 1945.
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Joseph Trainor generally did not check the reports he published, sometimes just collected on the Web; the more annoying here is that no source is given.
No other ufology source said anything about this alleged event (Belgian “skeptical” ufologist Godelieve van Overmeire merely picked up Trainor's report).
A sign that the story is probably invented is the claim that the discs flew away “into space”. No 1945 pilot would have thought that as they never thought that the phenomena were spacecraft.
No credibility.
* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.
| Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Contributors: | None |
| Reviewers: | None |
| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
| Version: | Create/changed by: | Date: | Description: |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | December 6, 2023 | Creation, [jtr1], [gvo1], [tai1]. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | December 6, 2023 | First published. |
| 1.1 | Patrick Gross | April 17, 2024 | Addition [ute1]. |
