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October 4, 1954, Limoges, Haute-Vienne:

Reference for this case: 4-oct-54-Limoges.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Summary:

The national newspaper Paris-Presse for October 7, 1954, among other observations of October 4, 1954, mentioned "Limoges".

The city with this date then appeared in a list of sightings compiled by Jacques Vallée in 1966; he then indicated in 1969 that according to the newspaper France-Soir for October 7, 1954, it was an object which landed on October 4, 1954 at an unknown hour in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, a railway employee.

As usual, this summary by Jacques Vallée will then be copied many times.

Reports:

[Ref. ppe1:] NEWSPAPER "PARIS-PRESSE":

Scan.

Descended from his "saucer" in Loctudy (Finistère)

A MARTIAN, SMALL, HAIRY AND UGLY, TAPPED ON THE SHOULDER
OF A COURAGEOUS BAKERY APPRENTICE

... While in Paris, a cardboard salesman sees a "flying disc" above the Porte Dorée

AGAIN a Martian. Each department will soon have its own. It was in the Finistère that the last specimen of the species appeared. This time, he showed himself without a helmet, with his face uncovered. He was not pretty.

A baker from Loctudy, Mr. Pierre Lucas, saw him disembark yesterday at 4 a.m. in a saucer flying three meters in diameter, in the courtyard of the bakery.

- He was no more than 1 m. 20 tall, he says. He approached me and tapped me on the shoulder with unintelligible words.

"I managed to keep my cool," continues the courageous bakery apprentice. The visitor followed me into the bakery. In the light, I could stare at him. His face was covered with hair and eyes the size of a crow's egg. I called my boss, but the Martian, when he arrived, was already gone. And the saucer was gone."

That same night, a Concarneau beer merchant saw two luminous round tables in the sky, extended by a sort of tail.

In the Nord, one did not see a Martian, but the gendarmes of Beuvry-les-Béthune wrote up a report against a manufacturer of flying saucers. He is a pensioner, named d'Oliveira. He is not Martian, but Portuguese. A whole stock of saucers was found in his attic. In fact, they were paper balloons 1 m. 50 to 5 meters in diameter, and of all colors.

I launched thousands of them, he said. It was so beautiful. In the evening, it looked like fireballs...

The saucer factory is now closed. The industrialist will be prosecuted for "having set off flaming devices within 100 meters of the homes".

Bad day yesterday for the saucers in the Nord: an investigation, carried out at Bray-Dunes, near Dunkirk, allowed to establish that the craft seen in this region were jet planes from the Belgian base of Coxide.

"Flying tram"

A resident of Haubourdin however observed a "flying tram", and a child saw a saucer land at Cheny, near Lille; which left traces "like that, he said, of a frog man". The gendarmes examined these traces; they looked very similar to those of horse hooves.

Paris, which the saucers have neglected until now, was favored by an appearance yesterday afternoon. A flying disc, followed by a plume of smoke, flew at 4:30 p.m. over the Porte Dorée under the eyes of Mr. Allouis, cardboard salesman. Several other people confirmed his testimony. But a spoilsport suggests that the flying disc, which he also observed, was, it seemed, a flying wing.

One saw yesterday a good twenty saucers, cigars, fireballs, light globes, in Limoges, at Brive, at Azat-le-Ris and at Magnac-Laval (Haute-Vienne), at Forgès and Le Mazin (Corrèze), at Payzac (Dordogne), at Chàteau-Chinon, at Nassier, in the Poitou marshes, at Vix (Vendée), at La Rochelle, at Albi.

Near Clermont-Ferrand, two saucers which, in passing, gave off a smell of nitro-benzine; near La Rochelle, another one that left oil stains when it landed in a meadow.

Finally, a technician from the weather station at Mans-Arnage observed yesterday morning at 6:08 a.m. two strong dark red lights.

- They were, he said, neither planes, nor sounding balloons, nor meteors. But I will not go so far as to claim that these are flying saucers...

[Ref. jve5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

233 -001.25721 45.85050 04 10 1954 LIMOGES F 001 A

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

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188) October 4, 1954 Limoges (France):

An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee. (35) (France-Soir, Oct. 7, 1954.)

[Ref. jve2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 4, 1954, an object landed in Limoges in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, a railwayman.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET ET JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Limoges in the department of the Haute-Vienne, on October 4, 1954, an object landed in the courtyard of Mr. Montagne, an S.N.C.F [National railway co]employee.

The source is indicated as the Vallée catalogue, case N.188

[Ref. lgs1:] LOREN GROSS:

October 4th. (no known hour)

A railroad employee living in Limoges, a M. Montagne, claimed a strange machine had landed on his property. No other details available. 40.

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

3959: 1954/10/04 00:00 10 1:15:00 E 45:51:00 N 3331 WEU FRN HVN 6:7

LIMOGES,FR:STRANGE OBJ LANDS IN RAILROAD-MAN'S YARD:NFD:type unk:/LDLN#102

Ref# 30 FIGEUT[sic]&RUCHON: OVNI: Le 1er Dossier Page No. 116 : ROAD+RAILS

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates in her catalogue that in 1954, on October 4, in France in Limoges, an "object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad worker."

She indicates that the source is "France-Soir, Oct. 7, 1954".

Monday, 4 October 1954

[...]

In Limoges (France), 1 object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee.

[...]

[Ref. djn1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

On this Day

October 4

[...]

1954 - An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee, in Limoges, France. (Sources: France-Soir, October 7, 1954; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216).

[...]

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

Monday, 4 October 1954

[...]

In Limoges (France), 1 object lands in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee.

[...]

Jérôme Beau indicates as source: "France-Soir, October 7, 1954".

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan notes in his database that in the Haute Vienne on October 4, 1954, at an unknown hour, "an object lands in Limoges, in the yard of a witness. Sparse information".

Luc Chastan indicates as source: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 4 October 1954 in Limoges, France, "An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee. An unidentifiable object was observed at close range."

The sources are indicated as: Vallee Magonia Database.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 4, 1954 - An object was said to have landed in the yard of Mr. Montagne, a railroad employee, in Limoges, France. (Sources: France-Soir, October 7, 1954; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216, case # 188).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded the case 4 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE II
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Limoges France CE I

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 4 1954.

LIMOGES (AISNE : FRANCE)

An object landed in the yard of railway worker Mr Montagne

Explanations:

Map.

Totally insufficient information.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Limoges, Haute-Vienne, object, landing, Montagne, yard

Sources:

[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross March 28, 2003 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross March 16, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [djn1], [jbu1], [lcn1], [uda1].
1.1 Patrick Gross June 22, 2010 Addition [jve5].
1.2 Patrick Gross October 9, 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.3 Patrick Gross December 16, 2016 Additions [lgs1], [ubk1].
1.4 Patrick Gross February 6, 2021 Additions [ppe1], [lhh1], [prn2].
1.5 Patrick Gross March 27, 2022 Addition of the Summary.

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